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Topic Title: Planning on buying 125W 9950 BE; will there be a faster processor than 2.6ghz anytime soon?
Topic Summary: I might delay my purchase for a 2.8ghz quad-core if it is on the market in the next 3 months.
Created On: 11/04/2008 04:41 AM
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 11/10/2008 02:29 PM
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Liqourice
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Originally posted by: Xajel

I know the AMD case is becoming worse, Phenom can't even compete with C2Q and Intel is preparing Ci7 too very soon


This is simply not true. What IS true is that the top of the line intel beats the top of the line AMD but compare CPU's at the same price range and they can definately compete. I hope you're not judging by SuperPI like so many others do...

Benchmarks are just benchmarks and nothing else, they don't give the whole truth.

Here's an example.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews...atom-nano-review.ars/6

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 11/10/2008 02:54 PM
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Liqorice, you read my mind. I was actually reading that review early this morning and was going to post it later. With AMD and the new Foundry Company, if they can get their fabs upgraded and get new ones on the go, the future will be much brighter.

Heck, ATI being able to represent themselves by making their own chips at technically their own fabs will definitely be a step up over nVidia and since they have the know how on all levels, a step up over Intel.

On the CPU front, that means they can carry product longer, transition faster and smoother and be able to produce more, and more variety. Looks at the 65nm transition. 90nm pretty much died then. Even if AMD wanted to release more socket 939 parts and AM2 parts at the same time, it was technically not feasible for them at that time.

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 11/10/2008 03:20 PM
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Liqourice, I never said C2D beats AMD in every thing, I meant the general view of the competition + the regular user, in most benchs C2D beats AX2 not to mention the better thermal and power and overclockability, if you take for example two identical clocked CPU's from both AMD and Intel you may see some different in price, but in general you will have better performance with C2D + lower power and better overclockability, let's face it about the last, when was the last time AMD did a better CPU than Intel in overclocking area ?

and about SuperPI, I don't believe in such test's, in another forum I was close to sparck a fight duo to some guys say ( that GPU is better in Crysis, so it's better that that GPU !! ) I don't believe in a single realworld bench so you can get my opinion about some not-realworld benchs too, my judgement always for some wide used realworld applications in varity of uses, and I amy give another judgement too if the user have specific requirements too as some products ( CPU's or GPU's ) may don't look that good in general but they look awesome in limited or specific area too...
 11/10/2008 06:24 PM
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I'm well aware that Intel makes faster CPU's right now and have done for some time. However, it's not that long ago that the opposite were true. I'm just saying that for most of us it doesn't matter if Intel makes the best model since it's generally to expensive anyway and it's only the really hardcore users and overcklocking fans that buy them. For the rest of us, a huge majority, we should compare the cpu's in the same pricerange and there it's not so clear that Intels are faster.

I don't defend AMD to the bitter end, I just want the discussion to be about real world performance and what's true for most of us.

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Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower : Corsair 750HX Modular PSU : Asus Crosshair III Formula : Phenom II X4 965 125W
Corsair H-50 CPU Cooler : Corsair Dominator GT DDR3 1600 7-7-7-20-1T 2x2GB : WD Caviar Black 32MB 640GB : Sapphire HD5870 Vapor-X
HTPC:
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Corsair 400W : Sapphire Radeon HD6850 : Lite-On iHBS112 BD-Burner : WD Caviar Green 500 GB
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