 09/03/2009 10:33 PM
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MU_Engineer Dr. Mu
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Originally posted by: PorscheRacer14
AMD's server chipsets are probably the most dramatic change in performance and features anyone's going to see for quite a while. The desktop side gets refined more and on a smaller process mode, yes, though.... the chipsets look great this time around.
AMD servers are still on the equivalent of the NForce 500 series, which is pretty darn outdated. They really do need something updated as they don't even have PCIe 2.0 and a lot of new RAID cards and such are starting to need that much bandwidth.
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 09/04/2009 09:03 AM
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PorscheRacer14 Ardrid Returned
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Isn't the 800 series bringing the server side PCIe 2.0, hardware virtualisation IMMOU (or however it's spelled) and a bunch of other things? If not... I wonder if one of those mobo manufacturers would be crazy enough to make a dual-socket mobo with these Thuban chips? DDR3 and two of these might make a competitive and cheap workstation, since these once should be clocked higher.
And when bulldozer comes out, they better bring back the FX brand...
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09/04/2009 01:05 PM
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MU_Engineer Dr. Mu
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Originally posted by: PorscheRacer14
Isn't the 800 series bringing the server side PCIe 2.0, hardware virtualisation IMMOU (or however it's spelled) and a bunch of other things?
Yes.
If not... I wonder if one of those mobo manufacturers would be crazy enough to make a dual-socket mobo with these Thuban chips? DDR3 and two of these might make a competitive and cheap workstation, since these once should be clocked higher.
You can get that. The initial Socket C32 chips will be available in four and six-core flavors, use DDR3, and work in dual-socket setups.
And when bulldozer comes out, they better bring back the FX brand...
It depends on how well the Bulldozer CPUs compare to the Core i<n> chips. If the fastest Bulldozer is faster than the top Core i<n>, then yes, the FX may come back. But I don't know if you want that as FX and Black Edition seem to be mutually exclusive. I'd rather pay $200 for my unlocked CPU rather than $1200.
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09/07/2009 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by: PC-GURU -
click here
Every last game they threw at it, there so close its not even funny.
Price(as ridiculous as it may be) doesn't have any place when figuring out which chip is faster. What a person may buy when consdering personal preference and their pocketbook is a different question. So really dude... you use tests in which the I7 is the winner almost every time as your reason why it's not faster than the Phenom II? In the future something like that probably shouldn't be your first choice when asked for a reference. 15% isn't what I'd call close either. All of this I think should be fairly obvious, so there's not really much point in saying it, but really I just wanted to use the picture. 
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Edited: 09/07/2009 at 11:23 AM by Mime
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09/08/2009 04:03 PM
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Abismo Junior Member
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I honestly feel that adding more cores won't help AMD's situation; hopefully with the new platform it'll open up their pc's a bit more. In reality though they need to ramp up those clocks speeds to compete with the i7s (not to mention the i5s), but from the article stated the top of the line server chip is only clocked at 2.8. We still barley have ANY games using more than 2 cores to being with. They either need a new CPU all together or they need to ramp up those clock speeds.
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09/16/2009 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by: PC-GURU - click here Every last game they threw at it, there so close its not even funny.
What is it ? A comparison of 2 CPUs, one 3.2GHz and other 2.6GHz ? It is 2GHz difference in one core like...
Maybe better is to show us a phenom 2 500MHz and a I7 0 MHz...
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09/16/2009 08:34 PM
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PorscheRacer14 Ardrid Returned
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Well AnandTech has these results posted a few days ago...
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3639&p=3
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 09/19/2009 04:55 PM
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hey porsche racer did u get that nice looking 4770 from xfx?
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09/19/2009 05:48 PM
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PorscheRacer14 Ardrid Returned
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Yeppers. I have to update my sig. Just been too busy with harvesting, building computers and NFS: Shift, haha.
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09/22/2009 10:59 AM
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MU_Engineer Dr. Mu
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And since we're talking about the new AMD server boards, SuperMicro just announced a bunch of SR5690/SP5100 boards for Socket F: http://supermicro.com/SR5690_SP5100/
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09/22/2009 07:03 PM
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PorscheRacer14 Ardrid Returned
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Yeah I got the e-mail from AMD Developer and it's looking really impressive, even on Socket-F. Some people have ben mentioning that these chipsets support some basic overclocking. Have you heard anything on this or know more on this?
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09/22/2009 10:23 PM
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MU_Engineer Dr. Mu
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Originally posted by: PorscheRacer14
Yeah I got the e-mail from AMD Developer and it's looking really impressive, even on Socket-F. Some people have ben mentioning that these chipsets support some basic overclocking. Have you heard anything on this or know more on this?
You can always try to overclock by twiddling the clock generator chip over the SMBUS, but that trick is spotty at best and only works on Windows at the moment 
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