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 10/30/2011 08:19 AM
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i stole no such thing only my scissors!
 10/30/2011 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by: Canis-X

Picked me up a SSD (128GB Crucial M4) since BD flopped. Here is my revised score....





hows that ssd compared to the raptors?

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 10/30/2011 02:44 PM
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Pretty snappy....LOL. It was a bit of a pain to get the OS installed as a single disk in RAID but once I got it loaded fine I have been very happy!! Nice speed increase.

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Processor ................. 7.6
Memory...................... 7.8
Graphics .................... 7.4
Gaming Graphics ........ 7.6
Primary Hard Disk ...... 7.9


ASUS M4A79T deluxe AM3 MOBO 790FX Chipset
ASUS Radeon 4890 in Slot 3
Kinston HyperX 16GB DDR3 1600
OCZ RevoDrive3 x2 PCIe 2.0 x4 Slot1 (SCSI) Active Boot Drive
AMD Phenom II x4 980 3.7GHz
Western Digital Velociraptor 300 GB 10,000 RPM (ACHI)
Western Digital Caviar Black 2 TB (ACHI)
 02/21/2012 09:57 PM
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My pc spec is in the sig, apart from the SSD i have installed.

Processor 7.3 (the CPU shows as 7.5 when overclocked)
Memory 7.5
Graphics 7.4
Gaming Graphics 7.4 (two 5770's in crossfire at standard clock, shows as 7.6 when at maximum overclock)
HDD 7.7

Edit: also the system is win7 ultimate sp1,
the windows performance numbers will differ between vista / win7 / win8
(windows vista giving higher numbers than win7)

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CPU: AMD Phenom II 955 @ 3.8 ~ 4 Ghz (Cooler Master V8 Heatsink)
Graphics: 2 x HD 5770
RAM: 8 GB (standard clock: PC3-1333)
Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E (790GX)
Sound: ASUS Xonar DX
Case: CM 690 (with custom paint and a 800W PSU)

Edited: 02/21/2012 at 10:05 PM by Bumblebeepee
 02/22/2012 12:20 AM
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My SSD score bumped up to 7.9 once I had it configured properly, so the same as the below with .1 up for the SSD:



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 02/22/2012 06:02 AM
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Yeah any SSD once comfigured properly will give a score of 7.9.... so those of you out there with an SDD and a score below 7.9, you have not configued your system quite right :0

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 02/22/2012 08:21 PM
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I get 7.6 CPU/Ram, 7.5 for gfx and 5.9 for HDD, I hate how the indext is just based off of your lowest score, it should be averaged.

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 02/22/2012 10:51 PM
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^this

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 02/22/2012 11:41 PM
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I don't agree... it's meant to point out the weakest part of your system... so the lowest score is the only way to go.

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GPU:HIS IceQ 5 Radeon HD 5770 Turbo 1GB.||.Audio: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro w/ Logitech Z-5300e (5.1, 280W-RMS)
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 02/23/2012 12:34 AM
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True, but there is no need to define the system as a whole by it's weakest link. We can clearly see which portion of the scores are holding it back by viewing the sub-scores....but that is just my 2 cents.

Cheers!

btw, I do see your side of the coin as well.

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 02/23/2012 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by: QB the Slayer

I don't agree... it's meant to point out the weakest part of your system... so the lowest score is the only way to go.



QB


Its the "Windows Experience Index" not the "Slowest Component of your system Index", just because one component of your system is slower doesnt hinder every other aspect of your system and the overall "experience" does not hinge on any single component but rather the combination of all components as tandem, an average would be a far better representation.

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HDD: WD Caviar Black 500gb x2
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 02/23/2012 05:13 PM
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What the weakest link is depends on what you do with the machine. Anything could become the weakest link if you push on it hard enough.

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 02/23/2012 05:25 PM
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I agree with you DE, an average would better in fact thay should have made it more like 3D benchmark or something like that. Rate your system as a whole then break it down it sub-scores like what Canis said.

But really I think the WEI is useless as ***** on a bull and dose't represent the true performance of ones system.

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 02/23/2012 06:30 PM
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Well as someone who has had more than one category limited due to HW (ie. low disk scores with HDD's and low GPU scores with an IGP) I can tell you that using the lowest score is very indicative of how well a system performs overall. Now that my system scores 7.4 and above on all categories, she is snappier and more responsive. PCMark scores are very nice... plus I have yet to bog her down with anything.

It points out the bottleneck of your system, the things holding it back from truly shining.

Also WEI was developed as a "minimum system requirement" type of figure... It never truly took off as intented. From what I gather, software and hardware would have a WEI value that is required to work properly, and as such the lowest score is needed for this purpose.

It is a benchmark, but it was intended as a "minimum system requirement" benchmark. The idea is awesome, since all you would need to know is a single number when shopping for SW/HW to know if your system could run it.

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The MONSTER HTPC

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 C2 (140W).||.Cooler: Corsair H80i
MB: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7.||.RAM: 8 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3 2000MHz (7-10-8-27-1T)
Case: CoolerMaster HAF 932.||.PSU: Corsair HX750
GPU:HIS IceQ 5 Radeon HD 5770 Turbo 1GB.||.Audio: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro w/ Logitech Z-5300e (5.1, 280W-RMS)
Drive: 2xKingston SSD 40GB RAID0.||.Storage: 6TB (4x500GB Caviar Black RAID0, 2TB Hitachi & 2TB Caviar Green)

Edited: 02/24/2012 at 07:43 PM by QB the Slayer
 02/23/2012 08:05 PM
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But it really isnt, Slow HDD will only impact loading and read/write times not actual application performance (for the most part), low GPU is only relevant if your a gamer, even a crappy IGP is sufficient for most windows tasks. Regardless, an average is still a more idicitive number, if you have two low scores then your average will be lower and a better representation of real system performance but if its only based on lowest score it just doesnt make sense, say your not a gamer all your cores are 7's but your gfx is only a 5, well thats not going make any difference to you at all, your system will still perform great it just wont handle games. again, its called the "Windows Experience Index".

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CPU AMD PII 1100T @ 4.0Ghz w/ NZXT Havik 140 HSF
Mobo: MSI 790fx-GD70
RAM: 8GB Kingston HyperX LTE
Vid Card: ATI HD4870 + 9800GTX+ PPU
HDD: WD Caviar Black 500gb x2
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PSU: OCZ Fatal1ty 750w
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 02/23/2012 08:19 PM
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But if a game you want requires an index of 6... then you know your "experience" with the game will suffer since you only score 5. I was only argueing the intent of the WEI. Also a disk of 5.9 does affect one's "experience" greatly, especially when you finally have a score of 7.9 ...You will never, ever want to go back to a score of 5.9

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The MONSTER HTPC

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 C2 (140W).||.Cooler: Corsair H80i
MB: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7.||.RAM: 8 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3 2000MHz (7-10-8-27-1T)
Case: CoolerMaster HAF 932.||.PSU: Corsair HX750
GPU:HIS IceQ 5 Radeon HD 5770 Turbo 1GB.||.Audio: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro w/ Logitech Z-5300e (5.1, 280W-RMS)
Drive: 2xKingston SSD 40GB RAID0.||.Storage: 6TB (4x500GB Caviar Black RAID0, 2TB Hitachi & 2TB Caviar Green)
 02/24/2012 01:40 PM
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Out of the six games I have installed on my system right now only three show a index and I haven't seen any game on steam that show this index.

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PII 1100T (Extinct)
Asus M4A78T-E (should be Extinct)
4Gb of Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz DDR3 (Going strong)
2x1GB 5850's (On their last lags)
Corsair HX850W (Awsome)
NZXT Phantom case (too ***** big)
 02/24/2012 07:44 PM
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As I said... it did not take off. But that was the main reason it was created, and to be honest, it's a great idea if it was adopted more.

QB

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The MONSTER HTPC

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 C2 (140W).||.Cooler: Corsair H80i
MB: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7.||.RAM: 8 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3 2000MHz (7-10-8-27-1T)
Case: CoolerMaster HAF 932.||.PSU: Corsair HX750
GPU:HIS IceQ 5 Radeon HD 5770 Turbo 1GB.||.Audio: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro w/ Logitech Z-5300e (5.1, 280W-RMS)
Drive: 2xKingston SSD 40GB RAID0.||.Storage: 6TB (4x500GB Caviar Black RAID0, 2TB Hitachi & 2TB Caviar Green)
 02/29/2012 10:15 AM
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Okay this is really weird, ever since I got my 5850's thay would not OC past 855/1095 and I was getting a index rating of 6.3 until yesterday.

I bumped these puppies too 870/1100 100% stable, I though every benchmark, game (at max setting) I have at them and thay handled it with no problems at all.

WOW, I thought, so I ran WEI again and this is what I got



Yeah, a 7.8 from 6.3!! the base score still sucks but oh well


EDIT
I looked up my old scores and I actuly had the memory clocked @1195Mhz not 1095. this would explane why I couldn't get the gpu past 855Mhz

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PII 1100T (Extinct)
Asus M4A78T-E (should be Extinct)
4Gb of Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz DDR3 (Going strong)
2x1GB 5850's (On their last lags)
Corsair HX850W (Awsome)
NZXT Phantom case (too ***** big)

Edited: 03/02/2012 at 02:04 PM by SlayerX
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