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 11/05/2011 05:44 PM
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anybody else notice healthy price increase in hardrive lately?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...ame=400GB%20-%20900GB

http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...%3B17_791_47515_47515
a month ago i picked up a 500gb hardrive for 50.00

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I would have said no, then I looked at my drives.

I have 2 Seagate XT's 2TB, Ipaid $130 per. Now at newegg... $250!
I have a Seagate LP 2TB, I paid $80. Now $90-100.
I have a WDC Green, paid $90, now $115.

*****?

Glad I bought when I bought. but the increase in price of the XT's have me staggering backwards!

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Flood in Thailand...knocked out a factory that made like..80% of all hard drive motors. Which is completely just what I HEARD. Haven't actually looked into it. Ha.

But yeah, prices are doubling. It's ridiculous. For stupid hard drives!

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here is a link to some flood pictures
http://www.brightsideofnews.co...n-digital-factory.aspx

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Originally posted by: technic58

Flood in Thailand...knocked out a factory that made like..80% of all hard drive motors. Which is completely just what I HEARD. Haven't actually looked into it. Ha.



But yeah, prices are doubling. It's ridiculous. For stupid hard drives!



More of a reason to switch to SSD's. no motor's

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Originally posted by: SlayerX

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Flood in Thailand...knocked out a factory that made like..80% of all hard drive motors. Which is completely just what I HEARD. Haven't actually looked into it. Ha.







But yeah, prices are doubling. It's ridiculous. For stupid hard drives!






More of a reason to switch to SSD's. no motor's


Too bad the prices are still laughable.

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Originally posted by: technic58

Originally posted by: SlayerX



Originally posted by: technic58







Flood in Thailand...knocked out a factory that made like..80% of all hard drive motors. Which is completely just what I HEARD. Haven't actually looked into it. Ha.















But yeah, prices are doubling. It's ridiculous. For stupid hard drives!












More of a reason to switch to SSD's. no motor's




Too bad the prices are still laughable.


x2


Now you have to remember, some of these guys don'tknow what it's like to struggle to save for this stuff. They'll just come here and bash he poor old hard drives, and tellus that they suck, and that SSDs rule, and then laugh at us when we say say phrases like $/GB

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 11/06/2011 11:46 AM
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I work at a computer place...and we had a sort of tech show earlier last week. My boss had asked the Intel rep what this crisis was going to do to SSD prices. Though it'd be nice for the SSD prices to come down as a result of more people buying them, it sounds like they just aren't ready for the demand yet. So if anything, they will go up, at least in the short term.

Supply and demand. Lol.

I always toy with buying a really small SSD for my laptop. But even then, you have to go out of your price range to buy a newer, faster, more reliable one. We'll see. I'm rooting for SSD's, or something like them. It's embarrassing how long we have depended on hard drives for data storage.

EDIT: If you want a nice $/GB number, look at RAM prices! I should have grabbed that G. Skill the other week. Around 30 bucks for 2x4GB of DDR3 laptop RAM! Sheesh!!

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Now you have to remember, some of these guys don'tknow what it's like to struggle to save for this stuff. They'll just come here and bash he poor old hard drives, and tellus that they suck, and that SSDs rule, and then laugh at us when we say say phrases like $/GB


No not at all... It just baffles me that people still equate HDDs to SSDs... they really don't have the same uses. It's like comparing apples to oranges. If you want the best single boost to system performance, than NOTHING can beat an SSD. And the cost of that boost in system performance is not that high. Also if the SSD is used properly, the size of them is not a problem. I still have 50GB of free space on my 74GB SSD RAID0.

If ALL things are factored in, the bang for your buck is really quite good for an SSD. How much added performance would I get if I upgraded my current CPU and spent $250 or more? How much of a boost would I get by upgrading my RAM? or GPU? (games notwithstanding)... You can get a cheap SSD for less than $100 that will do wonders for a system that nothing else can.

An SSD is not a replacement for an HDD. And all you guys and gals that keep quoting $/GB or any other stats just don't get that fact. In the past 2 years, how much have you guys spent on upgrades to CPU, RAM and GPU? And how much has your system really increased in performance?

Now before you slam me, I do understand that Gaming is a different beast, and if you use your system for Gaming 90% of the time then those upgrades may have made more sense. But how much of your system time is for Gaming?

Anyway, just my two pennies.

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Good post, QB. True that CPU upgrades are hardly worth the $$.

I kind of want to look into RAMdisks and how those work. If anyone could shed any light on that, that would be awesome.

I mean suppose you have 16GB RAM, which nowadays isn't expensive at all, and like 13GB of it is never doing nothing. Section it off for a RAMdisk, store oft-used data there, would be much faster than an SSD, right?

I don't know much about it. Haha.

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I believe ram disks are faster the ssd, but i may be wrong. Yes ram is crazy fast.
But i dont think you can section it off, any one i have seen was and actual card (pcie) with ram slots it in. It has a battery or some sort of power source thats always on so it can keep the info active in the ram. The problem i can see with them is that they are limited to the size of chips, I know they are producing 8GB ram chips now for consumer use, But even then your still limited on how much it can hold.

Edit: I just did a quick google on one, Gigabyte made one some time ago that ran DDR2 memory limited to 4GB, and had read/write of about 130MB/s, So maybe they are not as fast.

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Originally posted by: Immortal Lobster

Originally posted by: technic58



Originally posted by: SlayerX







Originally posted by: technic58















Flood in Thailand...knocked out a factory that made like..80% of all hard drive motors. Which is completely just what I HEARD. Haven't actually looked into it. Ha.































But yeah, prices are doubling. It's ridiculous. For stupid hard drives!
























More of a reason to switch to SSD's. no motor's








Too bad the prices are still laughable.




x2





Now you have to remember, some of these guys don'tknow what it's like to struggle to save for this stuff. They'll just come here and bash he poor old hard drives, and tellus that they suck, and that SSDs rule, and then laugh at us when we say say phrases like $/GB



First I agree with you guy's the $/Gb of these SSD's is insane and that what keeping me from buying one.

second, I'm not bashing HDDs (I'm still using them and will be using them for a long time yet.) but SDD's are superior in preformance and endurance, but it dose come at a price.

Oh, and I do know what its like to struggle to save up for this stuff.
I've been trying to save up for a new mobo for the last four months
and every time I turn around something else pops up and there gose the money.

But thats life.

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Not sure anybody in their right mind would ever suggestthat SSDs arenotsuperior in performance, just cost.

The other issue I have, and this stems back to an old PITA I had.
I used to have this great hard drive,a Quantum Bigfoot TS, 6.4GB. Great drive, and due to it's huge platter, (5.25" Drive), it had a low rpm, but retained modest access times to the rotation of the largedisc on the edge. It wasn't until I bought a 60GB Caviar 7200rpm drive that I could find a drivethat felt as fast and snappy. Anyway, I gad a "C" Driveof 6.4GB for years, and a larger D Drive. that was a pain in the neck. I didn't have the patience forit then, and I certainyl don't have it now.

The SSDs provide the same situation, and I refuse to go back to a 12 year old problem!

I tossed the idea out one day... what if I put it ina Jbod array, and defrag the disc so it scedules hiher priority to the SSD, and all else to the HDD. I was prompty shot down. told ithad something to do with scheduling and how SSDs and HDDs simply didn't play well in raid. Solve that problem and I'd jumpall over a smaller SSD.

outside of that, Ican't afford to drop 3k on a collosus.

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The pricing thing is the same with components when the earthquake hit Japan, plenty of people in the electronics manufacturing fields hit a rough patch when the lines in Japan went down.

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An 6.4Gb C drive!
by god, the size of it!
had an 1.9Gb disc for my ye olde win98
(66mhz IBM cpu, 32mb ram, 4 mb graphics card, yay.)

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Originally posted by: Bumblebeepee

An 6.4Gb C drive!

by god, the size of it!

had an 1.9Gb disc for my ye olde win98

(66mhz IBM cpu, 32mb ram, 4 mb graphics card, yay.)


That was an upgrade from a 1.6GB drive, which replaced a 480MB drive. soooo.... yeah. lol

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oh the memories.
and to still know how to put a 24mb drive into a apple 7.
(funny how in 20 years drives have gone from 2Gb to 2Tb...
or 30 years from the 2Mb drives)

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Never messed with the apples. First PC I had was an old x286 boat anchor.

First PC I truly had the fun of messing with and overclocking was an old Trigem, with a 75Mhz Pentium. Which became a 133Mhz Pentium, then a 233Mhz Pentium MMX, then a 200Mhz K6-2. and thus the road began. lol

By the time I retired that board, I had 128MB of ram on it, the AMD K6-2 was OCed to about 266mhz, or two jumper settings high IIRC. a 3Dfx Voodoo3, and a sound blaster 16, and that Bigfoot TS drive above. woohoo!

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Originally posted by: Immortal Lobster

Not sure anybody in their right mind would ever suggestthat SSDs arenotsuperior in performance, just cost.



The other issue I have, and this stems back to an old PITA I had.

I used to have this great hard drive,a Quantum Bigfoot TS, 6.4GB. Great drive, and due to it's huge platter, (5.25" Drive), it had a low rpm, but retained modest access times to the rotation of the largedisc on the edge. It wasn't until I bought a 60GB Caviar 7200rpm drive that I could find a drivethat felt as fast and snappy. Anyway, I gad a "C" Driveof 6.4GB for years, and a larger D Drive. that was a pain in the neck. I didn't have the patience forit then, and I certainyl don't have it now.



The SSDs provide the same situation, and I refuse to go back to a 12 year old problem!



I tossed the idea out one day... what if I put it ina Jbod array, and defrag the disc so it scedules hiher priority to the SSD, and all else to the HDD. I was prompty shot down. told ithad something to do with scheduling and how SSDs and HDDs simply didn't play well in raid. Solve that problem and I'd jumpall over a smaller SSD.



outside of that, Ican't afford to drop 3k on a collosus.


The answer to your problem is easily solved with windows. In my case, I have a 64GB SSD system drive and a 2TB storage drive. All my storage is is either videos, pictures, or music, which is stored in the My Music, My Videos, and My Pictures folders. You can easily set windows to change the location of those folders so everything you save there is saved right to the larger drive, without any extra effort. I've even got my favorites, links, and even my desktop set to the larger drive, so any program that I use that accesses those folders saves and reads from that drive. I don't understand what's so difficult about that?

BTW, this is my first SSD and I have to say I absolutely LOVE it!! My HTPC boots in 8 seconds flat, ready to watch movies on faster than my blu-ray player AND my PS3!!!

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My first PC that even HAD a hard drive was a 286 40 MHz system with a 40Mb hard drive. That's right that's MEGA-byte!! I had DOS on there, a couple games... and STILL had 10 megs left!!! lol

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