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 11/20/2004 01:44 AM
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i need to upgrade my vid card. What could I get for a bout 150 dinero

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QUOTE (proudmoore2 @ Nov 19 2004, 10:44 PM) i need to upgrade my vid card.  What could I get for a bout 150 dinero
well an nvdia 5900xt ?

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 11/20/2004 01:33 PM
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9600XT' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=14-102-326&depa=1

FX 5700' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=14-121-168&depa=1

9800se' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=14-102-433&depa=1

9600 Pro' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=14-131-227&depa=1

There are four cards that would be a nice upgrade.

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Hop on eBay and grab yourself a 9700 pro. If you can't do that look for a refurb'd 9800 pro.

On newegg they have refurb'd 9800 NP's for $130.
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...esc....&type=Refurbish' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...02-382R&type=Refurbish

A 9800 NP is basically a downclocked 9800 Pro.

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 11/20/2004 01:38 PM
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5700 Ultra' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=14-122-192&depa=1

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 11/20/2004 01:44 PM
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well i would buy an 5900xt' ">http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/faq.html

Price list on froogle ' ">http://www.google.com/froogle?...900&cat=1379&scoring=p

some doom3 benchmarks
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl.../dis...-3-tests_4.html' ">http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...ay/doom-3-tests_4.html

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 11/20/2004 02:08 PM
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Unless you're going to be exclusively playing OpenGL games then don't get anything with an FX in it's name. In DX9 the FX's are horrible, just horrible. I'd take a 9600 Pro over a 5900XT anyday.

As I said earlier, look for a 9700 or 9800. If you look in the right places you can spend less than your 150 budget.

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 11/20/2004 02:27 PM
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A 9800pro would be great, I got my 9800pro brand new on ebay for $150 about 6 months ago, I imagine they are even cheaper now.

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was gunna recommend 9800pro EZ, its about $150 and I got 42,000 on AM3 stock. got up to 44,570 overclocked.

oh , the reason Im not is because newegg doesnt have them in stock, thats the only place I look anymore.

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 11/20/2004 02:58 PM
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I just got my 9800 non pro, and I cant be happier, I had a radeon 8500 before and it a huge difference...
 11/20/2004 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (sambjo @ Nov 20 2004, 11:08 AM) Unless you're going to be exclusively playing OpenGL games then don't get anything with an FX in it's name. In DX9 the FX's are horrible, just horrible. I'd take a 9600 Pro over a 5900XT anyday.

As I said earlier, look for a 9700 or 9800. If you look in the right places you can spend less than your 150 budget.
heh

A 9600pro or xt could never beat a 5900xt in anything
 11/20/2004 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (nwo @ Nov 20 2004, 03:12 PM) QUOTE (sambjo @ Nov 20 2004, 11:08 AM) Unless you're going to be exclusively playing OpenGL games then don't get anything with an FX in it's name.  In DX9 the FX's are horrible, just horrible.  I'd take a 9600 Pro over a 5900XT anyday.

As I said earlier, look for a 9700 or 9800.  If you look in the right places you can spend less than your 150 budget.
heh

A 9600pro or xt could never beat a 5900xt in anything
Try DX9.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=4' ">http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=4

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 11/20/2004 03:22 PM
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QUOTE (sambjo @ Nov 20 2004, 12:16 PM)
Try DX9.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=4' ">http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=4
We all know that ATI cards do much better than Nvidia in HL2, just like Nvidia does better in doom 3.

How could you possibly say that a 9600P is better than a 5900xt?
http://www20.graphics.tomshard.../gra..._charts-04.html' ">http://www20.graphics.tomshard...004/vga_charts-04.html

It beats it in every single game on this site, the only game where ATI truely shines is HL2, so if you only plan to play HL2 then go ahead and get the 9600pro/xt
 11/20/2004 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (nwo @ Nov 20 2004, 12:22 PM) QUOTE (sambjo @ Nov 20 2004, 12:16 PM)
Try DX9.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=4' ">http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=4
We all know that ATI cards do much better than Nvidia in HL2, just like Nvidia does better in doom 3.

How could you possibly say that a 9600P is better than a 5900xt?
http://www20.graphics.tomshard.../gra..._charts-04.html' ">http://www20.graphics.tomshard...004/vga_charts-04.html

It beats it in every single game on this site, the only game where ATI truely shines is HL2, so if you only plan to play HL2 then go ahead and get the 9600pro/xt
uhh..my 6800gt gets 161fps in the video stress test...


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How about this Found it through froogle' ">http://www.gameve.com/gve/stor...aspx?sku=VC-POWERC-132
9800 pro EZ just right eh ?

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QUOTE (SLaY3r @ Nov 20 2004, 10:38 AM) 5700 Ultra' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=14-122-192&depa=1
Sorry 5700s suck. MY current card beats it out in the FAR CRY tests on toms hardware

QUOTE (nwo @ Nov 20 2004, 12:22 PM) QUOTE (sambjo @ Nov 20 2004, 12:16 PM)
Try DX9.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=4' ">http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=4
We all know that ATI cards do much better than Nvidia in HL2, just like Nvidia does better in doom 3.

How could you possibly say that a 9600P is better than a 5900xt?
http://www20.graphics.tomshard.../gra..._charts-04.html' ">http://www20.graphics.tomshard...004/vga_charts-04.html

It beats it in every single game on this site, the only game where ATI truely shines is HL2, so if you only plan to play HL2 then go ahead and get the 9600pro/xt
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QUOTE (Max Axe @ Nov 21 2004, 04:13 AM) How about this Found it through froogle' ">http://www.gameve.com/gve/stor...aspx?sku=VC-POWERC-132
9800 pro EZ just right eh ?
How about this card?? anyone aware about this card or using it ?

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what r the benchmarks of MY card?

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I will advise you to try to find a PowerColor 9800SE 256 Bit 4 Pipeline Model, its a rare model to find beacause is based on a 9800 Pro in everything pcb and memory are 256 bits, and as everybody knows the 4 pipelines that are blocked by the bios in the card can be unlocked with the Omega Drivers, so if you can find it you have the chance to have a 9800 Pro paying for a 9800 "SE" that really is the best model available in "SE" category, because the "real" SE cards are 128 bits pcb and memory (memory chips in line, instead of an "inverted L" around the core) so as far as i know is the best card you can find around 150 bucks.

The link of PowerColor (TUL Corporation now):
http://www.tul.com.tw/global/p...st.a...cat2=1&cat3=184' ">http://www.tul.com.tw/global/p...at1=12&cat2=1&cat3=184

And if the other 4 pipelines in the core are blocked by factory design or are damaged and thats why they sold it with "only" 4 pipelines, don´t worry still beats up the score of an 9600XT as stock card.

Core and Memory Clocks in this beauty are the same as in the 9800 pro series:
380/340, so if you find it you can´t go wrong with it.

Good luck.
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QUOTE (proudmoore2 @ Nov 20 2004, 04:52 PM) what r the benchmarks of MY card?
http://www20.graphics.tomshard.../gra..._charts-04.html' ">http://www20.graphics.tomshard...004/vga_charts-04.html

As you can see, your 9600SE gets owned by a pathetic 5200Ultra
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