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 10/02/2006 02:00 PM
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I wonder what the results would have been if they'd used two X1900XTX's in Crossfire?



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Originally posted by: MrWicked1968
I wonder what the results would have been if they'd used two X1900XTX's in Crossfire?



Sorta blows the cost comparison out of the water.
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Why link the last page?

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quote:

Originally posted by: Rico
Why link the last page?


ah rico can u stop ?

if i do anything u put a WHY at the first of it ,

i posted the last page u said WHY , in another topic i quoted the whole topic , u said WHY
what r u trying to do ? raise ur post counts ? /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="h34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />
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Originally posted by: Ronin
Sorta blows the cost comparison out of the water.


that's true. but at the same time, the GX2 is a dual gpu card. as it is, it doesn't look to me that the GX2 was fast enough to justify the price difference.

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Originally posted by: MrWicked1968
that's true. but at the same time, the GX2 is a dual gpu card. as it is, it doesn't look to me that the GX2 was fast enough to justify the price difference.


well, its about $450 vs $500, so price-wise (instead of technology-wise) (which is really less important) the 7950gx2 is winning in its category. whether the $50 difference is worth it or not is hard to say. most people don't want to spend this much either way.

EDIT despite "- ATI Radeon X1950 XTX costs $449, whereas the GeForce 7950 GX2 is priced at $599 - $649;" EDIT2 maybe they were changing the facts around a bit by using ORIGINAL msrp or something. its not hard at all to find a 7950gx2 for under $500.

also, that plugless power nonsense really really bothers me. this isnt a budget card, and it obviously requires more power than something like a soundcard. just give it a connector and make all of us with decent power supplies happy.


FINAL EDIT: all that being said, i think the x1950xtx is a better card, but the extra $50 might be warranted for the 7950gx2 in some cases.

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quote:

Originally posted by: AM2_GAINWARD
ah rico can u stop ?

if i do anything u put a WHY at the first of it ,

i posted the last page u said WHY , in another topic i quoted the whole topic , u said WHY
what r u trying to do ? raise ur post counts ? /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="h34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />



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but is the last page cant u just move you mouse to the back place any way i think they have the prices a little bit wrong on that review and i would go for the 1950xtx as it has some gd features

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I read that and was surprised it was so close. Good showing on both cards.
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Alright, first question looking at that review is. Did they compare the 2 cards equally? Off of this page...
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/v...play...quantity_6.html
it says that the x1950xtx has
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Originally posted by: Unknown * Catalyst A.I.: Standard
* Mipmap Detail Level: High Quality
* High Quality AF: On

and the 7950gx2 has
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Originally posted by: Unknown * Texture Filtering: High Quality
* Trilinear optimization: Off
* Anisotropic mip filter optimization: Off
* Anisotropic sample optimization: Off

Do having those features set equal the cards out...? Cause I dunno what the nVidia options do, and also what's mipmap? I have mipmap maxed in CCC for me, but never really knew what it did

And here's neweggs x1950xtx's...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...ist....N=0&Ntk=all
cheapest one being $420 (OEM)
And neweggs 7950gx2's...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...ist....N=0&Ntk=all
cheapest being $495 (retail)
So there's a $75 difference, but the cheapest retail x1950xtx is $430, so really $65 difference.
I say x1950xtx if I had to pick from the 2, but I also don't play at uB3R 1337 res either

BTW, what GPUs does the 7950gx2 use? Is it basically 2 512mb 7900GTs or somethin?
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a 2 against 1 seems unfair.... I'd say ATI wins this one because its close between 7950 and 1900 and not by far in comparison. And for a lower price and lower power consumption, Ill take it.....can someone find a 7900 vs the X1950? that would make more sense in comparison.

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i hate to keep defending nvidia, but come on, the prices are relatively close. they are direct competitors. would it make it any less impressive if it were 8 GPUs and 4gb of RAM that just barely beat 1 GPU and 512mb, if they were this close in price?
maybe its just the conroe methodology speaking here. the "however it gets it done" part.

the 7950gx2... well, it is two 7900gtx, but clocked lower. or think of it like two 7900gtos of sorts. either way 2x512mb of memory and two 7900gt/7900gtx cores, but clocked at 7900gt levels. so stock its somewhere between 7900gt SLI and 7900gtx SLI. you can easily get it to 7900gtx SLI (or better actually, due to the internal efficiency vs SLI efficiency) by overclocking.

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quote:

Originally posted by: TheReturnOfAZ
i hate to keep defending nvidia, but come on, the prices are relatively close. they are direct competitors. would it make it any less impressive if it were 8 GPUs and 4gb of RAM that just barely beat 1 GPU and 512mb, if they were this close in price?
maybe its just the conroe methodology speaking here. the "however it gets it done" part.

the 7950gx2... well, it is two 7900gtx, but clocked lower. or think of it like two 7900gtos of sorts. either way 2x512mb of memory and two 7900gt/7900gtx cores, but clocked at 7900gt levels. so stock its somewhere between 7900gt SLI and 7900gtx SLI. you can easily get it to 7900gtx SLI (or better actually, due to the internal efficiency vs SLI efficiency) by overclocking.


lol, 8gpu's and 4gb of RAM I'd take the one gpu and 512mb lol, tad over the top there. And yea they are close in price, personally, I'd take the x1950xtx, just because of teh price difference, though not alot if you plan to spend that much on a card, but that's $60-70 that could be used on a new HDD or somethin. Only thing that really gets me is that nVidia used 2 gpu's, it works I guess but still.
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but again, if the price is right, how is it over the top? why on earth do you care HOW it works if it works just as you need it to...
i hate to bring the analogy back up, but same with the conroe. LOL BIG CACHE, LOL ______ i dont really care how it works, it works well, and the price is right.

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Originally posted by: TheReturnOfAZ
but again, if the price is right, how is it over the top? why on earth do you care HOW it works if it works just as you need it to...
i hate to bring the analogy back up, but same with the conroe. LOL BIG CACHE, LOL ______ i dont really care how it works, it works well, and the price is right.


well, unless that 8gpu's and 4gb of RAM used miraculously less power then my entire system, I'd take it.
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the 7950gx2 uses about the same power as the x1900xtx from what i read (might be wrong)
so hey, its not as good as the x1950xtx, but its still definately reasonable, so no cause for alarm.

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Originally posted by: TheReturnOfAZ
the 7950gx2 uses about the same power as the x1900xtx from what i read (might be wrong)
so hey, its not as good as the x1950xtx, but its still definately reasonable, so no cause for alarm.


yea, I'm not puttin' down the 7950gx2, just sayin that it is barely beating the x1950xtx at res's lower than 1600x1200. It's just not right that a card with 2gpu's and 1gb of RAM should do so pourly against a card with half that. Iono, mayeb it'll be better later on when games actually need those resources.
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yeah, ati definately has a more efficient design (or something thats making it work like that)
but its like saying conroe 'needs' 4mb of L2 "to keep up with" 1mb of L2 on AMD CPUs. whether or not it does, its faster, and the price is where it should be.

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quote:

Originally posted by: TheReturnOfAZ
yeah, ati definately has a more efficient design (or something thats making it work like that)
but its like saying conroe 'needs' 4mb of L2 "to keep up with" 1mb of L2 on AMD CPUs. whether or not it does, its faster, and the price is where it should be.


ok, I was thinkin' you meant that the 7950gx2 was better, which it is, but yea it ain't as "effecient" as the x1950xtx. I wonder, if ATI did this same design(2gpus) which ones they'd use. 2 X1800XT's cores(or R520 I think it is) or what.
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