 08/21/2006 03:45 PM
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Zozio Senior Member

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QUOTE(Fuad Abazovic @ INQ) ATI's X1950 Pro to cost $199Nvidia will have to dropBy Fuad Abazovic: Monday 21 August 2006, 09:39 WE LEARNED that the upcoming X1950 PRO based on RV570 chip is going to be cheaper than expected. This card is expected in October and will end up with a juicy price of $199. Nvidia will price its Geforce 7900GS at the same price but Nvidia wants to fight RV560 with this card. RV570 is a 256 bit memory interface card with 256 or 512MB memory working at 1100 MHz and engine that is suppose to run at a 600MHz or 650MHz core. Nvidia will have the hard task to fight this one but as it didn’t announced anything it will always be able to make some slight changes in its roadmaps to fight this one.- http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33809Reader Beware: INQ.
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 08/21/2006 03:56 PM
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shazaam Senior Member

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Iono bout anyone else but that has to be false, there's no way it'd debut at $200 /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> X1800XTs just got down to that price. ATI'd rule any market then. $200 for the top card  I don't think so.
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 08/21/2006 03:58 PM
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k2aka111 Senior Member

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well to have the best stuff peopel can't go out every 40 days and pay $1200 for the latest SLi/crossfire. And if it really is $200 it makes your wonder how much does it really cost to make that thing.
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 08/21/2006 04:00 PM
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Zozio Senior Member

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quote:
Originally posted by: k2aka111 well to have the best stuff peopel can't go out every 40 days and pay $1200 for the latest SLi/crossfire. And if it really is $200 it makes your wonder how much does it really cost to make that thing.
Trust me, it costs a lot less than $200 to make a gpu. I'd estimate less than $50 for a top of the line one.
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 08/21/2006 04:04 PM
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shazaam Senior Member

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Originally posted by: Zozio Trust me, it costs a lot less than $200 to make a gpu. I'd estimate less than $50 for a top of the line one.
until you factor in everything that led up to making it. All the research going into the card/tech itself
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 08/21/2006 04:17 PM
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axy1985 Ninja Zombie Killer

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great speeds.... but it doesn't say anywhere how much pipes it will have. judging by the price and the GPU clock, i'd say it will be a 12-piped card. sounds really nice! and IIRC, ATI cards tend to unlock...
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 08/21/2006 04:21 PM
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Zozio Senior Member

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Originally posted by: axy1985 great speeds.... but it doesn't say anywhere how much pipes it will have. judging by the price and the GPU clock, i'd say it will be a 12-piped card. sounds really nice! and IIRC, ATI cards tend to unlock... 
Try 36.
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 08/21/2006 04:24 PM
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Overmind Assimilator

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Nice first line: faster than 7900GT This could imply also that it has 16 pipes... but who knows...
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 08/21/2006 04:27 PM
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Zozio Senior Member

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quote:
Originally posted by: Overmind Nice first line: faster than 7900GT This could imply also that it has 16 pipes... but who knows...
Actually it has 36 pipes.
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 08/21/2006 04:29 PM
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Aggressor Prime Senior Member

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Wasn't nVidia doing a similar thing a little while ago with the 7950GT? I only hope this price war carries on to the DX10 versions. That would be sweet!
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 08/21/2006 04:32 PM
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shazaam Senior Member

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How can it have 36pipes? It's a ramped up 1900 core(RV570?), just GDDR4 and a higher core clock I thought? And the new HSF design.
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 08/21/2006 04:33 PM
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blizard Senior Member

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quote:
Originally posted by: Zozio Try 36.
Is it right that with this new card you don't need a mastercard to get crossfire? You only have to buy two of the same and then you have crossfire system with the rigth MB. Then this is really some great news. /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />
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 08/21/2006 04:35 PM
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Zozio Senior Member

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Ugh... x1950/x1650 info: http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108309Edit: Educate yourselves  .
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 08/21/2006 04:44 PM
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k2aka111 Senior Member

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I can't keep up with ATI, for some reason the nvidia numbers make more sense to me than the ATI.
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 08/21/2006 05:42 PM
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victor_c26 Senior Member

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I always thought Pixel Shader processors did not equal pixel pipelines.
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 08/21/2006 05:50 PM
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me=kon Case Modder

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yea ATI is being weird lately, whatever happened to the x1950xtx?
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 08/21/2006 06:27 PM
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X1650 AGP FTW
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 08/21/2006 06:55 PM
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conzymaher Senior Member

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Ahhhh, I get it now  The X1950 series card with the R580 core is the new top of the line card with the 2 slot cooler.. The X1950pro (R570 core) is their new affordable high-end card, like the 7900gt but better And the X1650XT (R560 core) is their new Budget card, like the 7600gt but better I think the reason they chose the un odd model number is becasue they dont want to release the X2000XTX until R600...
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 08/21/2006 08:09 PM
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Zozio Senior Member

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quote:
Originally posted by: victor_c26 I always thought Pixel Shader processors did not equal pixel pipelines.
Wow, you're right  . In the past they were equal, but that has changed within the last year. I just assumed... anyways:CODER580+ - 16 Pixel Pipes - 48 Shader Pipes - X1950XTX - GDDR4 - 90nm R580 - 16 Pixel Pipes - 48 Shader Pipes - X1900XTX - 90nm R580 - 16 Pixel Pipes - 48 Shader Pipes - X1900XT - 90nm R580 - 12 Pixel Pipes - 36 Shader Pipes - X1900GT - 90nm RV570 - 12 Pixel Pipes - 36 Shader Pipes - X1950PRO - 80nm RV560 - 8 Pixel Pipes - 24 Shader Pipes - X1650XT - 80nm
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 08/21/2006 10:49 PM
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axy1985 Ninja Zombie Killer

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aha... so i was right!  that's insane.. those cards look friggin sweet! too bad i have a SLI board (wll moddable lol) and not a corssire based one
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