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 03/08/2006 05:26 PM
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Nikarah
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what exactly is overclocking? is it a change to the actual hardware via modifications, or is it done with software? and how does one go about doing it? i know its used to enhance performance of the system, but i havent the slightest clue on how to overclock my computers processor.
in system properties it sais i have an AMD Athalon™ 64 processor 3200+; which is currently running at 2.01ghz, which i understand is far lower than it's capabilities.
any help would be greatly appreciated. (i checked out the how-to guide posted here, but all the dowenloads had instrctions filled with stuff beyond my understanding).

the reason i ask is when i run programs, often there are very quick (usually only 1 at a time, most often when i am alt-tabbing from the program, or performing tasks in seperate windows) flashes.
normally i'd think it was my video card; but mine is an Nvidia Geforce 6150 256mb video card; which should not be having such problems with programs such as guild-wars and other various games (my old computer did not have these issues with a geforce 4 ti4600), and the processor is the weakest aspect of my PC.

any help would be much appreciated

oh...
and i should mention ies been saying my PC is running at 100% usage, with no more than 256mb worth of programs running (1gig ram) =/
 03/08/2006 05:41 PM
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Hallo!

Overclocking is running the CPU, memory, or graphics card (or all three of them) beyond their rated speed to improve performance. For example, overclocking an Athlon 64 3200+ by 200Mhz will make it perform like a 3400+. This is usually done via the motherboards BIOS -- there are various settings to change. It can also be done within Windows using software, but sometimes this can lead to stability problems. BIOS is the safest way to do it. There is no change of hardware. Overclocking is a free performance gain.

My own CPU, while far from being a good example of a great overclocking chip, is overclocked by 350Mhz or so, givingm me performance more like a 3600+ (there is no 3600+, but that's the "PR" rating). This is about as far as my chip will allow me to go. Bear in mind, this is a 2-year old chip which was built on the 130nm process and has 1MB L2 cache (hotter running that the current 90nm chips).

The AMD chips with the most overclocking potential are the socket 939 Opteron's. They are quite amazing. 2.0Ghz to 3.0Ghz and higher isn't unusual.

Also, it's a good idea to have decent cooling, and also good RAM, a good motherboard, and a good power supply. It is also a good idea to use various software tools to test for stability while you overclock. An 100% stable overclock that you can use 24/7 is the only overclock that really matters. I wrote a quick guide here with lots of links to overclocking, stress-testing and benchmarking tools, if you're interested.

So how exactly is it done?

When your PC is starting up you enter the BIOS (more often than not by tapping the Delete key on your keyboard, or sometimes F1, or maybe another key) which will take you to a bunch of options where you can adjust the basic system settings. There are several things to change -- HTT speed (HyperTransport Technolgy), CPU and memory voltages (often they need to be raised a little bit to be able to raise speeds), memory timings (relaxing the timings allows higher overclocking of the RAM and affects overall system stability), and the HTT multiplier (you'd need to set this lower than default).

Ask if you need any more help with any questions you have.
 03/08/2006 05:53 PM
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what exactly would i have to do to overclock my current processor?
will i need to purchase any hardware/software? and can it cause permanant system damage? (this is a new computer, so i dont want to do anything stupid).
 03/08/2006 06:01 PM
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No need to purchase any software, the best overclocking tools are all free, but you'd need to be sure that your system temperatures are OK and that your components are up to the job.

If you're careful and follow our advice, you won't damage anything. What is more likely is that you'll shorten the life of your processor a little. But say your processor has a theoretical life expectancy of 15 years... would you care that you took a couple of years off? You shouldn't, as your CPU will be fairly useless in say 10 years time.

If you would care to list your system spec (motherboard, CPU model, RAM, power supply, etc) we might be able to help you easier. If you don't know your full system spec, download Everest from the guide I linked you to and post up the details. Everest is a system info program, it tells you all you need to know.
 03/08/2006 06:18 PM
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i hope im not including too much/too little:

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Originally posted by: Unknown Summary

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Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Computer Name YOUR-79FD3B641A
User Name User

Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3200+
Motherboard Name Unknown
Motherboard Chipset Unknown
System Memory 960 MB
BIOS Type AMI (10/05/05)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 6150 (256 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA C51GL
Monitor Dell E772c [17" CRT] (6418027I00RH)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter SoundMAX HD Audio O

Storage:
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Disk Drive WDC WD1600JB-00REA0 (149 GB, IDE)
Optical Drive CD-ROM Drive
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 152625 MB (140934 MB free)

Input:
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse

Network:
Network Adapter NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller (192.168.1.100)

Peripherals:
USB1 Controller Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller [NoDB]
USB2 Controller Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller [NoDB]


DMI

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[ BIOS ]

BIOS Properties:
Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
Version 0403
Release Date 10/05/2005
Size 512 KB
Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, USB

[ System ]

System Properties:
Manufacturer Magnell
Product System Product Name
Version System Version
Serial Number System Serial Number
Universal Unique ID 8450DE89-74FED511-91107069-3875E1F5
Wake-Up Type Power Switch

[ Motherboard ]

Motherboard Properties:
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Product A8N-VM CSM
Version Rev 1.xx
Serial Number MB-1234567890

[ Chassis ]

Chassis Properties:
Manufacturer Chassis Manufacture
Version Chassis Version
Serial Number Chassis Serial Number
Asset Tag Asset-1234567890
Chassis Type Desktop Case
Boot-Up State Safe
Power Supply State Safe
Thermal State Safe
Security Status None

[ Memory Controller ]

Memory Controller Properties:
Error Detection Method 64-bit ECC
Error Correction None
Supported Memory Interleave 1-Way
Current Memory Interleave 1-Way
Supported Memory Speeds 70ns, 60ns
Supported Memory Types DIMM, SDRAM
Supported Memory Voltages 3.3V
Maximum Memory Module Size 4096 MB
Memory Slots 4

[ Processors / AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3200+ ]

Processor Properties:
Manufacturer AMD
Version AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3200+
Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Asset Tag To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Part Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
External Clock 200 MHz
Maximum Clock 3400 MHz
Current Clock 2000 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 1.5 V
Status Enabled
Socket Designation CPU 1

[ Caches / L1-Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Enabled
Operational Mode Varies with Memory Address
Associativity 4-way Set-Associative
Maximum Size 128 KB
Installed Size 128 KB
Supported SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Current SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Error Correction Single-bit ECC
Socket Designation L1-Cache

[ Caches / L2-Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Enabled
Operational Mode Varies with Memory Address
Associativity 4-way Set-Associative
Maximum Size 512 KB
Installed Size 512 KB
Supported SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Current SRAM Type Pipeline Burst
Error Correction Single-bit ECC
Socket Designation L2-Cache

[ Caches / L3-Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Disabled
Maximum Size 0 KB
Installed Size 0 KB
Socket Designation L3-Cache

[ Memory Modules / DIMM0 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM0
Type ECC, DIMM
Speed 160 ns
Installed Size 512 MB
Enabled Size 512 MB

[ Memory Modules / DIMM1 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM1
Type ECC, DIMM
Speed 162 ns
Installed Size 512 MB
Enabled Size 512 MB

[ Memory Modules / DIMM2 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM2
Speed 164 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

[ Memory Modules / DIMM3 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM3
Speed 166 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

[ Memory Devices / DIMM0 ]

Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Type Detail Synchronous
Size 512 MB
Speed 400 MHz
Total Width 64-bit
Data Width 72-bit
Device Locator DIMM0
Bank Locator BANK0
Manufacturer Manufacturer0
Serial Number SerNum0
Asset Tag AssetTagNum0
Part Number PartNum0

[ Memory Devices / DIMM1 ]

Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Type Detail Synchronous
Size 512 MB
Speed 400 MHz
Total Width 64-bit
Data Width 72-bit
Device Locator DIMM1
Bank Locator BANK1
Manufacturer Manufacturer1
Serial Number SerNum1
Asset Tag AssetTagNum1
Part Number PartNum1

[ Memory Devices / DIMM2 ]

Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Device Locator DIMM2
Bank Locator BANK2
Manufacturer Manufacturer2
Serial Number SerNum2
Asset Tag AssetTagNum2
Part Number PartNum2

[ Memory Devices / DIMM3 ]

Memory Device Properties:
Form Factor DIMM
Device Locator DIMM3
Bank Locator BANK3
Manufacturer Manufacturer3
Serial Number SerNum3
Asset Tag AssetTagNum3
Part Number PartNum3

[ System Slots / PCIEX16 ]

System Slot Properties:
Slot Designation PCIEX16
Type PCI-E x1
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Short

[ System Slots / PCIEX1 ]

System Slot Properties:
Slot Designation PCIEX1
Type PCI-E x1
Usage Empty
Length Short

[ System Slots / PCI1 ]

System Slot Properties:
Slot Designation PCI1
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Short

[ System Slots / PCI2 ]

System Slot Properties:
Slot Designation PCI2
Type PCI
Usage Empty
Data Bus Width 32-bit
Length Short

[ Port Connectors / PS2Mouse ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Mouse Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator PS2Mouse
External Connector Type PS/2

[ Port Connectors / Keyboard ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Keyboard Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator Keyboard
External Connector Type PS/2

[ Port Connectors / USB1 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB1
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / USB2 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB2
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / USB3 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB3
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / USB4 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB4
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / USB5 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB5
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / USB6 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB6
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / USB7 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB7
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / USB8 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type USB
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator USB8
External Connector Type USB

[ Port Connectors / LPT 1 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Parallel Port ECP/EPP
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator LPT 1
External Connector Type DB-25 pin male

[ Port Connectors / COM 1 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Serial Port 16550A Compatible
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator COM 1
External Connector Type DB-9 pin male

[ Port Connectors / LAN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Network Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator LAN
External Connector Type RJ-45

[ Port Connectors / 1394_0 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Network Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator 1394_0
External Connector Type RJ-45

[ Port Connectors / 1394_1 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Network Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator 1394_1
External Connector Type RJ-45

[ Port Connectors / Audio Mic In ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator Audio Mic In
External Connector Type Mini-jack (headphones)

[ Port Connectors / Audio Line In ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator Audio Line In
External Connector Type Mini-jack (headphones)

[ Port Connectors / Audio Line Out ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator Audio Line Out
External Connector Type Mini-jack (headphones)

[ Port Connectors / SPDIF_OUT1 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator SPDIF_OUT1

[ Port Connectors / TV_OUT ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Connector Type None
External Reference Designator TV_OUT

[ Port Connectors / CDIN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Port Type Audio Port
Internal Reference Designator CDIN
Internal Connector Type On-Board Sound Input from CD-ROM
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / PRI IDE ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator PRI IDE
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / SEC IDE ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator SEC IDE
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / FLOPPY ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator FLOPPY
Internal Connector Type On-Board Floppy
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / CHA_FAN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator CHA_FAN
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / CPU FAN ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator CPU FAN
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / FP AUDIO ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator FP AUDIO
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / SB_SATA1 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator SB_SATA1
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / SB_SATA2 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator SB_SATA2
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / SB_SATA3 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator SB_SATA3
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Connector Type None

[ Port Connectors / SB_SATA4 ]

Port Connector Properties:
Internal Reference Designator SB_SATA4
Internal Connector Type On-Board IDE
External Connector Type None

[ On-Board Devices / To Be Filled By O.E.M. ]

On-Board Device Properties:
Description To Be Filled By O.E.M.


Overclock

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CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64 3200+
CPU Alias Venice S939
CPU Stepping DH-E6
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3200+
CPUID Revision 00020FF2h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 2008.69 MHz
CPU Multiplier 10.0x
CPU FSB 200.87 MHz (original: 200 MHz)

CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-0403-009999-00101111-100505-GeForce 6150$A0368001_BIOS DATE: 10/05/05 14:20:27 VER: 08.00.12
Motherboard Name Unknown

BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 10/05/05
Video BIOS Date 09/23/05
DMI BIOS Version 040

Power Management

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Power Management Properties:
Current Power Source AC Line
Battery Status No Battery
Full Battery Lifetime Unknown
Remaining Battery Lifetime Unknown


Sensor

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Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Winbond W83647HF (ISA 290h)

Temperatures:
Motherboard 42 °C (108 °F)
CPU 45 °C (113 °F)
Aux 36 °C (97 °F)
WDC WD1600JB-00REA0 35 °C (95 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2123 RPM
Power Supply 2961 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.26 V
Aux 3.76 V
+3.3 V 3.34 V
+5 V 5.59 V
-12 V 1.95 V
-5 V 2.69 V
+5 V Standby 5.04 V
VBAT Battery 3.06 V
Debug Info F 9F FF E4
Debug Info T 42 45 36
Debug Info V BB EB D1 D0 FF CD CF (03)


CPU

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CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3200+
CPU Alias Venice S939
CPU Stepping DH-E6
Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 4x / 10x
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 939 Pin uOPGA
Package Size 4.00 cm x 4.00 cm
Transistors 68.5 million
Process Technology 11Mi, 90 nm, CMOS, Cu, SOI
Die Size 84 mm2
Core Voltage 1.100 - 1.450 V
I/O Voltage 1.2 V + 2.5 V
Maximum Power 67.0 W

CPU Manufacturer:
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information http://www.amd.com/us-en/Proce...oduc...,30_118,00.html

CPU Utilization:
CPU #1 0 %


CPUID

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CPUID Properties:
CPUID Manufacturer AuthenticAMD
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3200+
CPUID Revision 00020FF2h
Extended CPUID Revision 00020FF2h
AMD Brand ID 010Ah (Athlon 64 3200+)
Platform ID CDh (Socket 939)
IA CPU Serial Number Unknown
HTT / CMP Units 0 / 1

Instruction Set:
64-bit x86 Extension (AMD64, EM64T) Supported
Alternate Instruction Set Not Supported
AMD 3DNow! Supported
AMD 3DNow! Professional Supported
AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Supported
AMD Extended MMX Supported
Cyrix Extended MMX Not Supported
IA-64 Not Supported
IA MMX Supported
IA SSE Supported
IA SSE 2 Supported
IA SSE 3 Supported
CLFLUSH Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG8B Instruction Supported
CMPXCHG16B Instruction Not Supported
Conditional Move Instruction Supported
MONITOR / MWAIT Instruction Not Supported
RDTSCP Instruction Not Supported
SYSCALL / SYSRET Instruction Supported
SYSENTER / SYSEXIT Instruction Supported
VIA FEMMS Instruction Not Supported

Security Features:
Advanced Cryptography Engine (ACE) Not Supported
Data Execution Prevention (DEP, NX, EDB) Supported
Hardware Random Number Generator (RNG) Not Supported
Montgomery Multiplier & Hash Engine Not Supported
Processor Serial Number (PSN) Not Supported

Power Management Features:
Automatic Clock Control Not Supported
Enhanced Halt State (C1E) Not Supported
Enhanced SpeedStep Technology (EIST, ESS) Not Supported
Frequency ID Control Supported
LongRun Not Supported
LongRun Table Interface Not Supported
PowerSaver 1.0 Not Supported
PowerSaver 2.0 Not Supported
PowerSaver 3.0 Not Supported
Processor Duty Cycle Control Not Supported
Software Thermal Control Supported
Temperature Sensing Diode Supported
Thermal Monitor 1 Not Supported
Thermal Monitor 2 Not Supported
Thermal Monitoring Supported
Thermal Trip Supported
Voltage ID Control Supported

CPUID Features:
36-bit Page Size Extension Supported
Address Region Registers (ARR) Not Supported
CPL Qualified Debug Store Not Supported
Debug Trace Store Not Supported
Debugging Extension Supported
Fast Save & Restore Supported
Hyper-Threading Technology (HTT) Not Supported
L1 Context ID Not Supported
Local APIC On Chip Supported
Machine Check Architecture (MCA) Supported
Machine Check Exception (MCE) Supported
Memory Configuration Registers (MCR) Not Supported
Memory Type Range Registers (MTRR) Supported
Model Specific Registers (MSR) Supported
Page Attribute Table (PAT) Supported
Page Global Extension Supported
Page Size Extension (PSE) Supported
Pending Break Event Not Supported
Physical Address Extension (PAE) Supported
Secure Virtual Machine Extensions (Pacifica) Not Supported
Self-Snoop Not Supported
Time Stamp Counter (TSC) Supported
Virtual Machine Extensions (Vanderpool) Not Supported
Virtual Mode Extension Supported

CPUID Registers (CPU #1):
CPUID 00000000 00000001-68747541-444D4163-69746E65
CPUID 00000001 00020FF2-00000800-00000001-078BFBFF
CPUID 80000000 80000018-68747541-444D4163-69746E65
CPUID 80000001 00020FF2-0000010A-00000001-E3D3FBFF
CPUID 80000002 20444D41-6C687441-74286E6F-3620296D
CPUID 80000003 72502034-7365636F-20726F73-30303233
CPUID 80000004 0000002B-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000005 FF08FF08-FF20FF20-40020140-40020140
CPUID 80000006 00000000-42004200-02008140-00000000
CPUID 80000007 00000000-00000000-00000000-0000003F
CPUID 80000008 00003028-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000009 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 8000000A 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 8000000B 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 8000000C 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 8000000D 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 8000000E 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 8000000F 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000010 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000011 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000012 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000013 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000014 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000015 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000016 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000017 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000018 00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000

MSR Registers:
MSR C0010015 0000-0000-0C00-0000
MSR C0010042 1204-0606-040C-0C0C


Motherboard

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Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-0403-009999-00101111-100505-GeForce 6150$A0368001_BIOS DATE: 10/05/05 14:20:27 VER: 08.00.12
Motherboard Name Unknown

Front Side Bus Properties:
Bus Type AMD Hammer
Real Clock 200 MHz
Effective Clock 200 MHz
HyperTransport Clock 1000 MHz


Memory

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Physical Memory:
Total 959 MB
Used 545 MB
Free 413 MB
Utilization 57 %

Swap Space:
Total 1874 MB
Used 418 MB
Free 1455 MB
Utilization 22 %

Virtual Memory:
Total 2833 MB
Used 964 MB
Free 1869 MB
Utilization 34 %

Physical Address Extension (PAE):
Supported by Operating System Yes
Supported by CPU Yes
Active Yes


BIOS

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BIOS Properties:
BIOS Type AMI
System BIOS Date 10/05/05
Video BIOS Date 09/23/05

BIOS Manufacturer:
Company Name American Megatrends Inc.
Product Information http://www.ami.com/amibios
BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosag...index.cfm?refererid=40

Problems & Suggestions:
Suggestion Are you looking for a BIOS Upgrade? Contact eSupport Today!


Windows Video

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[ NVIDIA GeForce 6150 ]

Video Adapter Properties:
Device Description NVIDIA GeForce 6150
Adapter String GeForce 6150
BIOS String Version 5.51.22.26.07
Chip Type GeForce 6150
DAC Type Integrated RAMDAC
Installed Drivers nv4_disp (6.14.10.8198 - nVIDIA ForceWare 81.98)
Memory Size 256 MB

Video Adapter Manufacturer:
Company Name NVIDIA Corporation
Product Information http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=products
Driver Download http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp


PCI / AGP Video

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Device Description Device Type
nVIDIA C51GL Video Adapter
nVIDIA C51GL 3D Accelerator

 03/08/2006 06:28 PM
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There is no need for those type of ultra long and skippable reports, is fairly more easy to read if you just post by yourself the brand and model of your components. I guess that you got an ASUS A8N-VM CSM, right? You're fairly out of luck if you want to overclock with it, read here and here. Its possible, but isn't exactly nice to only be able to do it from Windows.
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Thats a good enough board to overclock with. Go into your BIOS (hit DEL during the black screen / text at start up, just keep hitting it until you get into the bios).

Take a look here to see what you need to adjust to OC your CPU. Your looking for 'CPU FSB Frequency'. Adjust that a little bit at a time (a jump to 220 should be safe) then go from there in steps of 5. If you don't have a temperature monitor you won't know what your CPU is doing so I'd reccomend that.

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ninjastyle
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Crikey! That's a little more information than required, but it'll do!

Well I'm not too sure about your CPU temperature. Judging by the Everest readout, it's already higher than expected -- 45 C / 113 F, which is high considering you're running at stock. But let's try some minor overclocking and see how it goes. I want you to be very careful here, and only raise the speed by very small amounts at a time.

First thing I will suggest is downloading Super Pi. http://www.xtremesystems.com/pi/ Click the link to download, then unzip it to a folder and put it on your desktop. Open the program by clicking "super_pi_mod.exe", and run the 1M test. This should take around 42 or 43 seconds, I estimate. When it's done, make a note of the exact time. This way we can use it as a reference point and see what the gains are from overclocking.

If you're ready to proceed, read on.

Restart your PC, and keep tapping the Delete key as it's starting up. You should now be able to get to the BIOS where you need to change a few things.

First, we need to lower the HTT multiplier. The name of this setting will vary between motherboards, so I can't tell you the exact name, I have no knowledge of your board's BIOS. But by default, this is set to 5x. Try setting it to 4x. You can use the arrow keys on your keyboard, as well as the Enter key, and Page Up / Page Down to change values. Once you have set the multiplier to 4x, move on to the next setting.

CPU/FSB Frequency. This is set to 200 by default, and this value X your CPU multiplier (10) gives you your CPU speed: 200 x 10 = 2000Mhz (2Ghz). I'm going to be a little more careful here than Rico suggested. Raising this to say 205 is a small step and should be fine for now. Remember, we need to raise this in very small steps at a time. If you can do this, great -- you're now overclocked, albeit by just a small amount (50Mhz). We need to pay it safe.

Save your settings by pressing F10, then press the Enter key to exit. Your PC will restart with the new settings and you should boot into Windows. Once you're in, try running Super Pi 1M test and make a note of he difference in speed. It'll just be a small performance increase, but this is a good start, and then you can report back here and tell us if everything is OK. It should be. The 3200+ Venice core (your processor) is a great overclocking chip. I hope that the rest of the system (RAM, power supply, motherboard) is OK too.

**Should you face problems while you're trying to boot your PC, you might possibly need to clear CMOS. This basically restores the default system settings. To do this, you need to open up your case and remove the battery on the motherboard. It's a little, flat silver battery that's about an inch in diameter. You can't miss it. Power off the systen at the mains, press the power switch on your case to drain any stored up power, then remove the battery for say 10 minutes. Pop it back in and start up up the system. Once the system is up and running, enter BIOS by tapping Delete and choose "Optimized Defaults".

It's not too likely that you'll need to do this when overclocking by such a small amount. It's usually only necessary in emergencies. However, you need to know this info, just in case you're ever faced with a non-boot situation.
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Originally posted by: Unknown CPU Utilization:
CPU #1 0 %
CPU 45 °C (113 °F)


Is that right?

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It seems high doesn't it. Should be at least 10 degrees lower, I'd say. Maybe Nikarah lives in a sauna!
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The humidity would have killed the computer already!

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Heh.

Just a thought -- where the heck is this symbol for degrees on a keyboard --> ° <-- ?

I've never known.
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By God's sake, no one read MY Threads? I already stated that this Motherboard temperature sensor doesn't move from the 45°C-47°C range no matter if my A64 3000+ run at 1.8 GHz with 1.4 Volts or 1 GHz with 1.1 Volts (Should be corrected with the 0702 BIOS), and also that the Voltage sensor either misreads too or the Motherboard simply overvolts. It always fluctuates 0.075-0.1V over what it is setted at, reading it either in the BIOS or with CPU-Z/CBI. The Base Clock setting can't go further than 240 MHz in the BIOS, as you can't neither control the Processor Multiplier, Processor Voltage and Memory Modules Voltage. Though so, you got a fairly nice Latencies settings to try.
In the BIOS, there is an option that controls the Hyper Transport Frecuency from Northbridge (GeForce 6150) to Processor, that if I am right, setting it to 1000 MHz equals to the 5x Multiplier (For some reason it gives you options for up to 1600 MHz too), so you would be aiming to set it to 800 MHz or 600 MHz.
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No, we don't read your posts,, blazer. You're just... not important...

j/k.



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so should i be deterred by the temp?
i do live in texas (average room temp in the summer is in the range of 77-85) so will this be a major issue?

oh...and heres a screenshot of the PI printout:
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I don't know. zir_blazer has thrown a spanner in the works and I don't understand his post too well.
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Originally posted by: ninjastyle
I don't know. zir_blazer has thrown a spanner in the works and I don't understand his post too well.




i, too, barely understand him...and thats without the technical stuff thrown in. /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />
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i dont think anyone sayd it yet,

overclocking VOIDS your warranty !!!!!
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With my english knowledge I understand properly my Posts. You must try harder But if you want that I rephase it anyways...

First, the BIOS temperature readings of the ASUS A8N-VM CSM are wrong. When I first started to use Central Brain Identifier to lower the Multiplier and Voltage of the Processor, after several hours the temperature readings of several applications (Central Brain Identifier and the BIOS itself), the temperature barely changed. It always was in the 45°C-47°C range no matter if it runned at 1 GHz with 1.1 Volts or 1.8 GHz with 1.4 Volts, yet the Heatsink is cold to touch (The temperature readings should be fixed with the BIOS 0702). On the other hand, the Voltage sensor also seems to be misreading (Or the Motherboard is overvolting) because at nominal specifications (1.4V) the BIOS, CBI and CPU-Z reads a fluctuating Voltage that is always 0.075-0.1V over the Voltage that is setted for it (If I use CBI and lower the Voltage to 1.1V, it will read a fluctuating 1.175-1.2V).
Second, overclocking with this Motherboard isn't easy because you got no Processor Multiplier, Processor Voltage and Memory Module Voltage options while the Base Clock is limited to 240 MHz only. That means that for almost any adjustement that you wanted to do, you must use Windows based Software.
Third, the Hyper Transport Frecuency option in the BIOS is called "GeForce 6150 to Processor HT Frecuency" or something like that and you can select from 200 MHz to 1.6 GHz. You should select 800 MHz or lower.
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quote:

Originally posted by: thuglife
i dont think anyone sayd it yet,

overclocking VOIDS your warranty !!!!!



Boo hoo...

*crying...
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