 02/27/2007 10:45 PM
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Charlie22911 Voodoo Programmer

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well, i have been inspired by so other OC threads to see how high an overclock i can get with stock volts using stock cooling. so far im almost 30min into orthos @ 312x9 1.35v (1.31v because vdroop, my psu is weak  ). im going to require that orthos run a minimum of 8 hours for my overclock to be considered stable. i will be overclocking in 50MHz increments until i hit a wall, at which point it will be considered my max  . i will update this post with my results once each testing phase has completed. screenie- 312x9 1.35v stock cooling (Orthos-small FFT to stress cpu most, 2x cpuz-CPU info and RAM info, coretemp-temperatures): http://img.photobucket.com/alb.../cha...911/312x9_1.jpgif you have any questions, comments, or suggestions... please feel free to post them! i love to interact with the community here, lots of intelligent people on these forums  . EDIT: wait, shouldn't this be in the system specs area? sorry if it is, please move it if its in the wrong place  BTW, 1hour and 13mins still going strong
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 02/28/2007 02:12 AM
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palmboy5 Overclocker

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What is your CPU stepping?
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 02/28/2007 02:59 AM
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zir_blazer Code Warrior

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quote:
Originally posted by: Charlie22911 (1.31v because vdroop, my psu is weak ).
How you know if that is fault of the Power Supply and not the Motherboard Voltage Regulator Module or a faulty BIOS/Software reading? Those temperatures are pretty high. I hope that you don't plan to use it during all the day at that Frequency...
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 02/28/2007 03:53 AM
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Xtreeme Senior Member

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YOW shes hot! Um I think your volts are just reading low.......either way you need to control that temp fast.
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 02/28/2007 11:22 AM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean

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Ummm...theoretically temperature isn't supposed to increase unless you increase the voltage...but ddayum those are high, and I was concerned about just barely touching 60, [content edited], your bouncing throughout thoughout the upper 60s and 70s!!! and yes, just as EPoXs read high, DFIs read low.
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 02/28/2007 11:23 AM
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Charlie22911 Voodoo Programmer

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quote:
Originally posted by: palmboy5 What is your CPU stepping?
CCBBE 0161XPMW  quote:
Originally posted by: zir_blazer How you know if that is fault of the Power Supply and not the Motherboard Voltage Regulator Module or a faulty BIOS/Software reading?
Those temperatures are pretty high. I hope that you don't plan to use it during all the day at that Frequency...
never thought of that... but a 450w pushing a x1950xt(x), 3 drives, 2GB ram and an OC opty... i kinda figured it was the PSUs fault. quote:
Originally posted by: Xtreeme YOW shes hot! Um I think your volts are just reading low.......either way you need to control that temp fast.
those are WAY off, thermal probe reads no higher than 47°C, heatsink only slightly warm. UPDATE: i forgot to check my PC before school this morning, so that means if its stable it will have 14 hours to run. will post results as soon as i get back.
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 02/28/2007 11:27 AM
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sepheroth003 Senior Member

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pretty good going so far...hope its stable when you get home
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 02/28/2007 12:26 PM
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zir_blazer Code Warrior

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Originally posted by: Immortal Lobster Ummm...theoretically temperature isn't supposed to increase unless you increase the voltage...but ddayum those are high, and I was concerned about just barely touching 60, [content edited], your bouncing throughout thoughout the upper 60s and 70s!!!
When you raise the Frequency of the Processor, you're increasing the Amperage that it eats and that means higher power consumption and heat dissipation. Higher Frequency, higher temperature. I believe Core Temps readings because where it gets them from and how is very well documented, as it actually reads temperatures from the Processor diode. Motherboards usually got an extra diode that is where some BIOSes and Motherboard monitoring Software reads from, and that temperature may be far from reality.
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 02/28/2007 12:30 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean

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Originally posted by: zir_blazer When you raise the Frequency of the Processor, you're increasing the Amperage that it eats and that means higher power consumption and heat dissipation. Higher Frequency, higher temperature.
Yeah, but amperage itself is a function of voltage, not a function of frequency.
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 02/28/2007 02:03 PM
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zir_blazer Code Warrior

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Originally posted by: Immortal Lobster Yeah, but amperage itself is a function of voltage, not a function of frequency.
No, Amperaje and Voltage are independent values. Watts is the product of Amperaje * Voltage, that is what you should be talking about.
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 02/28/2007 03:09 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean

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Originally posted by: zir_blazer No, Amperaje and Voltage are independent values. Watts is the product of Amperaje * Voltage, that is what you should be talking about.
V=iR Voltage = Amperage * Resistance Resistence is in ohms. in relation to amps, V/R=i i ordr for i to increase Voltage MUST increase, or resistance must decrease.
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 02/28/2007 03:49 PM
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Charlie22911 Voodoo Programmer

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well, i have mixed news.... it flew right past my required 8hours stability, and right past 14hours... but it failed at 17 hours. http://img.photobucket.com/alb.../cha...1/312x9_1-1.jpgim still debating if i should consider that stable or if heat (58 degrees according to my thermistor) and mabye the weak PSU are the reason it failed. any suggestions? should i keep pushing the clocks? i will be ordering a new PSU soon along with a thermaltake big typhoon, that should help... EDIT: its the second core thats failing... notice in my core temp shot at the begining that the second core was read higher than the first core. its also the failing core in my 3GHz runs  . EDIT2: just sent in an order to newegg, the thermaltake big typhoon will hopefully be here by next week. next month i will get the PCP&C 750w or OCZ gameXtreme 700w. until then, i will work with what i have. i have decided im going to keep clocking  . results soon  .
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 02/28/2007 04:18 PM
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Megadeth Senior Member

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 02/28/2007 05:21 PM
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Royal Flush Alpha Geek

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Keep in mind, if you push it too far, you might end up with a dead computer
To me 2.6-7 is a good OC, 8 and above is gettin tricky there
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 02/28/2007 05:32 PM
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Megadeth Senior Member

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Originally posted by: Royal Flush Keep in mind, if you push it too far, you might end up with a dead computer
To me 2.6-7 is a good OC, 8 and above is gettin tricky there
You'll have a dead computer if you push the voltage up too high or let the temperature go up too high...the actual clock speed won't do anything.
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 02/28/2007 05:33 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean

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Originally posted by: Megadeth You'll have a dead computer if you push the voltage up too high or let the temperature go up too high...the actual clock speed won't do anything.
Aye, Id say anything above 1.5-1.55V is pushing it, depends on the original voltage.
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 02/28/2007 05:36 PM
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r3sil3 Senior Member

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IIRC, its 1.35 for stock.
Id not go above 1.45 IMHO.
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 02/28/2007 05:38 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean

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I think the CCBBEs are 1.3Volt, I ran my CCBWE at 1.475, from 1.35. Running my 170 right nw, L9BWE at 1.4Volt. as soon as my temps calm down, im pushing for 1.45 see If i cant get the second core to pass at prime
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 02/28/2007 05:47 PM
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Megadeth Senior Member

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Originally posted by: Immortal Lobster Aye, Id say anything above 1.5-1.55V is pushing it, depends on the original voltage.
My X2 3800+ ran at 1.35V at stock. It could do 2.6 GHz at that. For 2.7 GHz it needed 1.39V. And I didn't test any higher.
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 02/28/2007 06:32 PM
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alexfort93 Elite

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Can't really see it..
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