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Topic Title: ATI 4850 review
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Created On: 06/15/2008 02:36 AM
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 06/15/2008 02:36 AM
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ATI wasn't joking this time around. 800SP's baby. An Overclocking marvel. Equal to or better than 3870 at stock, and can surpass it with a slight OC. Drivers work. Basically everything nVidia fans have been scolding ATI for have been remedied and fixed, and given to you in a mainstream GPU at a fair price. Don't forget these things will fold like crazy having 1 TeraFLOP of performance and don't use much power at load and minimal amounts at idle. Add in DX10.1 support, UVD2, and all the other goodies and you have one heck of a card.

Check it out!!

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 06/15/2008 02:57 AM
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I'm still waiting for the real reviews for both 4850 & 4870, and Finally, I think this time I'll go for ATi

looking at current info, I don't know If I'll take 1x 4870 or 2x 4850 CF... the difference is $100 or less ( depends on 4850 pricing ) but 2x 4850 will surly beat 4870 with a good margin not to mention they will both have 2 TeraFLOPS of power compared to 1.2 TeraFLOPS for 4870 alone...

the nice thing, any body can have 4870 now, then add 4850 for CF, but I don't know if 4850+4850 CF will work like 4850+4870 CF or not, AFAIK the 4870 will work as 4850 in this case to balance both sides of the CF...
 06/15/2008 03:10 AM
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Yeah, we'll have to see how inter-family Crossfire works out, but they do look very promising. I haven't been tempted to replace my R600 yet, but the 4850 sure looks good. Just need a more in depth review on noise levels, heatoutput and all that fine stuff. 4850 in CF does sound good, Xajel. I haven't done Crossfire on my setup since X1600 Pro days, lol. Their drivers sure have come a long way since then.

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 06/15/2008 07:05 AM
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 06/15/2008 07:24 AM
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@PR, I'm really waiting for the review, too long to wait ( even if it's just one week ), I hope some sites make some in depth reviews for both cards even in inter-family setup, the thing that the higher-end parts will work as fast as lower end parts ( just like RAM speed in one system ) I knew in the early CF setups with old drivers, and I know from the latest reviews for CF and 3870 X2 that AMD tweaked the CF very well in the drivers to squeez the last juice of performance... I just wonder if they make any thing related to inter-family CF setups

I wonder too; in a setup like 4870+4850, if the 4870 will work like 4850 then can we use the extra power for physics ?
I mean the 4870+4850 in Graphics will be like 4850+4850, so can we use the extra power lift in that 4870 for Physics or any other CTM application ?

I doubt that, it's too early to make such a thing, but in the same time, it's not that far away
 06/15/2008 10:35 AM
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Any information about the 4650/4670? That's the one I am interested in as I'm guessing it will have 320-480 SPs and run 700-800 MHz core on a 256-bit GDDR3 memory bus, making them as powerful as a 3850/3870 but being able to fit on the shorter PCBs and costing around $100-130 rather than $150-180. My x1900GT has been having cooler problems and the big, long PCB doesn't play all that nicely with my hard drive cages.

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 06/15/2008 03:20 PM
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I haven't heard anything on those cards yet, just a mention of them at Computex, but of course the spotlight were on the launching of the 4850 and 4870 cards along with the 3950 cards. I'll try to keep an eye out for any other ATI cards being launched that are new and post them up here.

And some more news....

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7865.html

R700 family specs

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Edited: 06/15/2008 at 03:30 PM by PorscheRacer14
 06/15/2008 03:42 PM
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According to those specs, the 4670 is SO close to specs to the 4850. Basically clocks are different, and judging by the higher core clock but tad less pixel and texture processing, less processing pipelines?
Very interesting.

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 06/15/2008 04:14 PM
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This product it should give AMD the image of a company that can bring the best products into the market. I hope the prices will be higher too, so it can gain some profits. I know this isn't good for me, if I want to buy one ... but I would like to AMD to get a better position into the market.

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 06/15/2008 04:46 PM
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Well they could follow the Nintendo policy where they bet that more people will buy their card because its cheaper and in this case, very powerful. If so, then I'm a candidate for the R700 cards.

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 06/15/2008 06:29 PM
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MEH I will keep my 8800GT there is nothing I see that is going to make run out and get one . Not just yet any way .

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 06/15/2008 07:07 PM
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I see alot of reasons to go get one.
 06/15/2008 10:01 PM
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We just need some DX10.1 titles and then there is all the reason you need. We've already seen the improvement of a few games using DX10.1 over DX10. A good 15% improvement in framerates and better AA and AF at all levels.

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 06/16/2008 01:59 AM
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I don't really see the point in having a renamed 3870.
I'm waiting for the real thing: 4870.

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 06/16/2008 02:04 AM
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It's good to know that a single 4850 can beat dual 3850 in CF ( at least in 3D Mark 06 ) and same goes for 4870 > 2x3870

I'm waiting for the real benches of 4850, 2x4850 CF, 4870, 2x4870 CF and 4850+4870 in CF

ofcourse with the lovely OC, heat & power numbers too
 06/16/2008 03:46 AM
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Some low price, power and heat parts please
 06/16/2008 08:15 AM
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Looks like 4850 in Crossfire will beat a GTX 280, which also means you'd be saving money in the long run, have more performance, and only use slightly more power to get there (under full load), plus of course, be able to multi-monitor, multi-adapter display to your wildest dreams.

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 06/16/2008 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Kab

Some low price, power and heat parts please


I want to use a Sapphire 4870... the TOXIC Edition. Here's an explanation of how it works for those of you who haven't checked out. A really cool single-slot cooling solution.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...edition-review-5.html

Hopefully they use a different kind of glue on the 48xx versions, and they slightly reevaluate the heatsink and fan and how they interact, but it's way more effective than just a fan and heatsink, with the Vapor-X chamber and all.

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 06/16/2008 05:39 PM
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GTX 280 reviews are out

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...perclocked-review.html


YAY AVATARS ARE FIXED

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 06/16/2008 06:47 PM
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Kind of on the same topic, the FireStream version is also announced. It's going to shake up the CAD and ultra-rendering environments....

http://www.pcworld.com/busines...r_hits_1_teraflop.html

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