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 03/07/2009 08:26 PM
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Zodgrod009
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Originally posted by: PC-GURU -

your system is far from the Atypical bud.



98% of the ones that said it was so great don't use any where near the power you do. Or produce any where near the heat you do.



I had to mod the hell out of my antec 900 to get it to cool anywhere near well enough.



Just a thought.



Your system will produce very similar heat to mine so I have a good idea what your going to need for cooling if your going to pull it off without a lot of case mod.


And that is?

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 03/07/2009 09:00 PM
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your system is producing ruffly 850 to 950 watts of heat.

ceramic space heater on low settings.

math would be right around 97 CFM constant flow.

this can be done with cases with out top exhaust but its not easy.

that's a constant flow of air in and out again and replaced again at a rate of 97 cubic feet per min.

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Originally posted by: PC-GURU -

your system is producing ruffly 850 to 950 watts of heat.



ceramic space heater on low settings.



math would be right around 97 CFM constant flow.



this can be done with cases with out top exhaust but its not easy.



that's a constant flow of air in and out again and replaced again at a rate of 97 cubic feet per min.


ok so what kind of case should I have in mind

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AMD 940 PH2 BE @ 3.7 Ghz ArcticFreezer 64 pro
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
Patriot 4GB pc8500 DDR2 1066@5-5-5-15
Antec Quattro 850 Watt PSU
Asus 5770 1GB DDR5 850/1200
Sound blaster Audigy. w/2.1 surround Logitech speakers
Antec 900 case w/4 120mm fans 1 200mm fan
 03/08/2009 03:04 PM
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Ok i'm looking for some case recommendations.

A few I had in mind are Antec 300 or possibly a CM mystique 632
and going over budget an Antec 900.

But now I'm not so sure.

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AMD 940 PH2 BE @ 3.7 Ghz ArcticFreezer 64 pro
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
Patriot 4GB pc8500 DDR2 1066@5-5-5-15
Antec Quattro 850 Watt PSU
Asus 5770 1GB DDR5 850/1200
Sound blaster Audigy. w/2.1 surround Logitech speakers
Antec 900 case w/4 120mm fans 1 200mm fan
 03/08/2009 03:10 PM
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whats your budget then ?

All the cases designed to house your level of hardware are going to be around $150.00 to $200.00 unless you case mod.

I had to save for years to get my new one lol. My only choice was to get the Antec 900 and mod the hell out of it.

At least now I wont have to mod anything, its ready to go with on board cooling options and adding a single rear exhaust.

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AMD phenom II 1090T @ 4.23 Ghz custom water cooled
Asrock 890 FX deluxe 3 mother board
4 GB DDR 3 1600 @ 1688 Mhz 7 7 7 24 T1 2688 Mhz NB
2x 1 TB WD Sata III 64 mb cache HDD,s raid 0
2x 5870 HD @ 1015/1300 Asus reference
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 03/08/2009 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by: PC-GURU -

whats your budget then ?



All the cases designed to house your level of hardware are going to be around $150.00 to $200.00 unless you case mod.



I had to save for years to get my new one lol. My only choice was to get the Antec 900 and mod the hell out of it.



At least now I wont have to mod anything, its ready to go with on board cooling options and adding a single rear exhaust.


Well the 300 will require modding especially for the wiring, the 900 will be a little easier and I will indeed have to add fans to both, but I can take the 2 120mm from my current case.

My budget is around 70-130, see I can pick up the 300 for 70 or the 900 for 130.
The CM one costs 105 but isn't quite what i'm looking for. so budget wise 65-135.

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Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
Patriot 4GB pc8500 DDR2 1066@5-5-5-15
Antec Quattro 850 Watt PSU
Asus 5770 1GB DDR5 850/1200
Sound blaster Audigy. w/2.1 surround Logitech speakers
Antec 900 case w/4 120mm fans 1 200mm fan
 03/08/2009 04:29 PM
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ok I was going to get this one and I changed my mind last min due to bottom PSU location

Full tower even.

XCLIO Blackhawk Black Finish 0.8 mm SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Full Tower Extreme Cooling Computer Case - Retail Special Xclio savings, ends 3/10

$100.00 case

this case is good to go for ya as is no moding needed.

temps wont be as good as mine due to bottom PSU mount but its still going to be better and more room then what you have now.

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AMD phenom II 1090T @ 4.23 Ghz custom water cooled
Asrock 890 FX deluxe 3 mother board
4 GB DDR 3 1600 @ 1688 Mhz 7 7 7 24 T1 2688 Mhz NB
2x 1 TB WD Sata III 64 mb cache HDD,s raid 0
2x 5870 HD @ 1015/1300 Asus reference
Dual OS win 7 x64 ultimate & win 7 x32 Ultimate (bench os)

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 03/08/2009 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by: PC-GURU -

ok I was going to get this one and I changed my mind last min due to bottom PSU location



Full tower even.



XCLIO Blackhawk Black Finish 0.8 mm SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Full Tower Extreme Cooling Computer Case - Retail Special Xclio savings, ends 3/10



$100.00 case



this case is good to go for ya as is no moding needed.



temps wont be as good as mine due to bottom PSU mount but its still going to be better and more room then what you have now.


Ordering online at the moment is not an option I will go with either the 300 or the 900

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AMD 940 PH2 BE @ 3.7 Ghz ArcticFreezer 64 pro
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
Patriot 4GB pc8500 DDR2 1066@5-5-5-15
Antec Quattro 850 Watt PSU
Asus 5770 1GB DDR5 850/1200
Sound blaster Audigy. w/2.1 surround Logitech speakers
Antec 900 case w/4 120mm fans 1 200mm fan
 03/08/2009 07:53 PM
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Xclio Fully Black

I was looking to buy this case^^^

Buy a prepaid gift card and order it that way!

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4GB GSkill Pi Black 1066
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 03/08/2009 07:56 PM
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no top exhaust, cooling is highly limited.

other is only $10.00 more

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AMD phenom II 1090T @ 4.23 Ghz custom water cooled
Asrock 890 FX deluxe 3 mother board
4 GB DDR 3 1600 @ 1688 Mhz 7 7 7 24 T1 2688 Mhz NB
2x 1 TB WD Sata III 64 mb cache HDD,s raid 0
2x 5870 HD @ 1015/1300 Asus reference
Dual OS win 7 x64 ultimate & win 7 x32 Ultimate (bench os)
 03/08/2009 08:07 PM
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So even adding a very high CFM 120mm on the back isnt enough cooling? Is the top exhaust neccessary? ( this is a serious question, looking at this case, I would think a top exhaust would just be a luxury)

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2 x Sapphire 4870 1GB GDDR5
4GB GSkill Pi Black 1066
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640GB WD Caviar Black 32mb
Cooler Master HAF 932
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 03/08/2009 08:10 PM
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drastic for my cooling. difference of 20c to say the least.

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4 GB DDR 3 1600 @ 1688 Mhz 7 7 7 24 T1 2688 Mhz NB
2x 1 TB WD Sata III 64 mb cache HDD,s raid 0
2x 5870 HD @ 1015/1300 Asus reference
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 03/08/2009 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by: PC-GURU -

drastic for my cooling. difference of 20c to say the least.


How did you mod your 900?

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AMD 940 PH2 BE @ 3.7 Ghz ArcticFreezer 64 pro
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
Patriot 4GB pc8500 DDR2 1066@5-5-5-15
Antec Quattro 850 Watt PSU
Asus 5770 1GB DDR5 850/1200
Sound blaster Audigy. w/2.1 surround Logitech speakers
Antec 900 case w/4 120mm fans 1 200mm fan
 03/08/2009 08:28 PM
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3x 120 mm for side over the stock 92mm

3x 120 mm in the front over the 2

removed side glass and added screen side for increased air flow

removed front plastic plates and went with solid screen front for increased air flow.

reworked front bays to open front up more for increased air flow

all said and done, your looking at a 65 CFM to 70 CFM constant gain in flow.

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AMD phenom II 1090T @ 4.23 Ghz custom water cooled
Asrock 890 FX deluxe 3 mother board
4 GB DDR 3 1600 @ 1688 Mhz 7 7 7 24 T1 2688 Mhz NB
2x 1 TB WD Sata III 64 mb cache HDD,s raid 0
2x 5870 HD @ 1015/1300 Asus reference
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I modified my budget and I am getting the 900 two

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Patriot 4GB pc8500 DDR2 1066@5-5-5-15
Antec Quattro 850 Watt PSU
Asus 5770 1GB DDR5 850/1200
Sound blaster Audigy. w/2.1 surround Logitech speakers
Antec 900 case w/4 120mm fans 1 200mm fan
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It's a hella nice case. Lack of side vent can be a problem with your gpu,s. I can teach ya how to overcome that.

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Asrock 890 FX deluxe 3 mother board
4 GB DDR 3 1600 @ 1688 Mhz 7 7 7 24 T1 2688 Mhz NB
2x 1 TB WD Sata III 64 mb cache HDD,s raid 0
2x 5870 HD @ 1015/1300 Asus reference
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Originally posted by: PC-GURU -

It's a hella nice case. Lack of side vent can be a problem with your gpu,s. I can teach ya how to overcome that.



Well there is a side fan but no vent hmmm?

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AMD 940 PH2 BE @ 3.7 Ghz ArcticFreezer 64 pro
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
Patriot 4GB pc8500 DDR2 1066@5-5-5-15
Antec Quattro 850 Watt PSU
Asus 5770 1GB DDR5 850/1200
Sound blaster Audigy. w/2.1 surround Logitech speakers
Antec 900 case w/4 120mm fans 1 200mm fan
 03/09/2009 11:44 AM
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1 side fan with 23 CFM lol that's.

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Asrock 890 FX deluxe 3 mother board
4 GB DDR 3 1600 @ 1688 Mhz 7 7 7 24 T1 2688 Mhz NB
2x 1 TB WD Sata III 64 mb cache HDD,s raid 0
2x 5870 HD @ 1015/1300 Asus reference
Dual OS win 7 x64 ultimate & win 7 x32 Ultimate (bench os)
 03/09/2009 09:15 PM
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Hey Im going with that version too...Ill let you know when I decide to pay for it and get it ordered. Im upgrading Wifey's PC, and she gets my Ultra X3 PSU. I didnt know it existed until you mentioned it bud.... sweet!

The 900 V2 comes in a combo 900 V2 Combo, I know the Antec PSU is a good one, but will it run 2 4870's and my 9950? If so, that just saved me a bundle of bucks and I get the case I want.

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Phenom II 955
Cooler Master V8
ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe 790FX
2 x Sapphire 4870 1GB GDDR5
4GB GSkill Pi Black 1066
2 x 74GB WD Raptor 16mb RAID-0
640GB WD Caviar Black 32mb
Cooler Master HAF 932
Antec Quattro 850w
 03/10/2009 12:54 AM
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I wound up getting a 900 and it was a little cheaper because of a small scratch.
the scratch won't matter because a case badge will cover it.

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AMD 940 PH2 BE @ 3.7 Ghz ArcticFreezer 64 pro
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
Patriot 4GB pc8500 DDR2 1066@5-5-5-15
Antec Quattro 850 Watt PSU
Asus 5770 1GB DDR5 850/1200
Sound blaster Audigy. w/2.1 surround Logitech speakers
Antec 900 case w/4 120mm fans 1 200mm fan
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