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 03/26/2010 11:10 PM
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It's been about a week and a half since I built my new rig and I just officially finished all of my overclocking. I downloaded the AMD Overdrive utility, mainly so because the beeping from all of the rebooting after exiting the BIOS got on my nerves. The monitor on Overdrive says that the temp on my CPU is 51 degrees at full load. My M4A79T Deluxe came with PC Probe II, which tells me that the temp on my CPU is 47 degrees at full load.

Which of these two is more accurate? Rather, what IS the most accurate temp monitoring software I could get? Thanks in advance.

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 03/27/2010 02:57 AM
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Overdrive gets it temps from the cpu it self and pc probe from the mobo ( sencer behind the cpu)

I think AOD is pretty accurate with the temps but I hope your not using it to OC your rig. Very nice set up by the way but it must suck to only 4670 in it.

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 03/27/2010 03:08 AM
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use the tool that came with the board.

Also don't OC via AMD OD , best to OC via bios bud.

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 03/27/2010 03:46 AM
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I have Asus's PC probe. It sucks!!

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 03/27/2010 04:26 AM
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Asus Probe II has a default setting of 45c on the NB /MoBo temp. Anytime you surpass that, the alarm is going to sound. My M3A79-T deluxe has the same 790FX chipset that has a max. rating of 55c, so you should still be within spec. at 47c. You can either reset the parameters of ASUS Probe II (up the alarm setting), try a fan, directed at the NB heatsink to bring down temps. or just turn off the alarm.

There are a few different monitoring programs that are effective for giving decent readings. The one that I prefer is EVGA E-Leet Tuning Utility, which is actually a OCing program designed for the X58 Intel board with a accurate core sensor, but you have to have an EVGA product registered with them before you can download it. There are other good programs out there though, HW Monitor, CoreTemp, and Everest just to name a few. To find one that works best for you open up the BIOS, go to Hardware Monitoring and find the program that matches closest to those readings.

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 03/27/2010 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by: SlayerX

Overdrive gets it temps from the cpu it self and pc probe from the mobo ( sencer behind the cpu)



I think AOD is pretty accurate with the temps but I hope your not using it to OC your rig. Very nice set up by the way but it must suck to only 4670 in it.


Actually, I have to say I'm rather impressed by the little 4670. I just wanted something to throw into the rig so I had a little bit of graphics and a DVI connector. I ordered all of my parts about the beginning of February and had to go through a few RMAs. I didn't want to go too overboard on a GPU yet since the release of the gtx300 was just right around the corner. I'm planning on waiting for maybe a month or two and wait for some reviews on it to start popping up. If I don't see anything I like I'll probably end up going with a 5870.

As for Overdrive, yes I used it to generalize the values that I wanted and after the system was stable I went ahead and entered everything into the BIOS. Like I said, I just didn't want to have to hear that annoying-***** beep every time I exited the BIOS, so it served it's purpose.

Originally posted by: unclefester1

Asus Probe II has a default setting of 45c on the NB /MoBo temp. Anytime you surpass that, the alarm is going to sound. My M3A79-T deluxe has the same 790FX chipset that has a max. rating of 55c, so you should still be within spec. at 47c. You can either reset the parameters of ASUS Probe II (up the alarm setting), try a fan, directed at the NB heatsink to bring down temps. or just turn off the alarm.



There are a few different monitoring programs that are effective for giving decent readings. The one that I prefer is EVGA E-Leet Tuning Utility, which is actually a OCing program designed for the X58 Intel board with a accurate core sensor, but you have to have an EVGA product registered with them before you can download it. There are other good programs out there though, HW Monitor, CoreTemp, and Everest just to name a few. To find one that works best for you open up the BIOS, go to Hardware Monitoring and find the program that matches closest to those readings.


Well, the temps that I got are about as high as they're going to go. After I was done overclocking I ran prime95 for approximately 6 hours and those were the temps I got. I'm not really too worried about overheating with those temps, a hydro-cooled CPU, and the HAF932. I just happened to notice that there was a slight difference in the temps I got from the two programs. I have to say, I never thought about checking the temps in my BIOS to see which was the most accurate. Lol.

Thanks for the input guys.

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RAM: G. Skill Ripjaws DDR3 PC12800 (6-6-6-17-23 1T @ 1400)
GPU: Radeon Saphire HD 4670 1GB 128 (Patiently awaiting the GTX300)

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 03/27/2010 04:23 PM
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Frailty
I was only given you a hard time about the 4670.It just seemed funny to have low powerd gpu in a high power rig.

I have the 4650 in the wife's rig and I'm too impressed by it. It run cool and quiet and dose a good job for what it used for. I would't game with it but that whats my main rig is for.

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 03/27/2010 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by: SlayerX

Frailty

I was only given you a hard time about the 4670.It just seemed funny to have low powerd gpu in a high power rig.



I have the 4650 in the wife's rig and I'm too impressed by it. It run cool and quiet and dose a good job for what it used for. I would't game with it but that whats my main rig is for.


I didn't mean to come off as sounding defensive about it. Lol. I know it's a slightly odd component to have in my rig. I get a kick out of it too. It's kind of like having a Corvette with a V4 in it. Makes me laugh every time. XD

I just meant that I wasn't going to spend $400 on a GPU when a new release is just around the corner. Might as well wait to see if the new one is what it's cracked up to be, and if not, at least some of the others might go down in price.

It's all heart-felts and handshakes, bro. No worries.

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CPU: Phenom II x4 965 (OCD 4.0 with a Corsair H50)
MOBO: ASUS M4A79T Deluxe
HDD: 3x 500GB WD Caviar Blacks (2x in RAID 0, 1 for data storage)
PSU: Thermaltake Modular 850W Single Rail
RAM: G. Skill Ripjaws DDR3 PC12800 (6-6-6-17-23 1T @ 1400)
GPU: Radeon Saphire HD 4670 1GB 128 (Patiently awaiting the GTX300)

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 03/28/2010 11:38 AM
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you might like to know this.
There's a gtx 480 out now.

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 03/28/2010 04:54 PM
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Though, I just have to say this. Seems kind of going in through the top floor window instead of the front door if you put a nvidia card in that rig since you'll never be able to SLI. If you'll never ever get a second card then it's fine I guess but your options will always be limited. Getting a 5870 gives you the option to add a second one later on when they are a lot cheaper.

Just a thought. Of course you do as you wish!

Going back to temps. I'm also quite certain AOD shows the correct temps but using it to OC is not the best option. Overclocking with AOD comes with a few strange effects and I just don't trust the stability quite as much as doing it myself in BIOS. This comes from experience, I always used AOD on my old rig and strange things happened now and then.

I'm not sure if HWMonitor is accurate but it works for me, I'm never near overheating anyway so...

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