 03/29/2008 07:17 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean
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No reason not to post, we're glad you did, I'm tempted to run it on my laptop just to provide a rock bottom score 
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03/29/2008 07:32 PM
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RBR Case Modder
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Thanks IL, and thanks also for doing this benchmark thread. You always do a great job at this.
Sorry, but I listed my old hard drive and edited my post to show the new Western Digital drive. Can you please change the scoreboard? Dang, I know I just created more work for you!
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03/29/2008 07:34 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean
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Np, and thanks for the compliment =)
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03/29/2008 08:36 PM
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ebear2100 Senior Member
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Hi, For Kaz mainly, ill do the correct format tomorrow morning
John
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03/29/2008 08:38 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean
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.... I just made the graphs XD
Ok, I'll include your results in the graphs, but not in the list until you get the list done.
It's apparent this thing doesn't take advantage of SLi
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Edited: 03/29/2008 at 08:53 PM by Immortal Lobster
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03/29/2008 09:07 PM
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kazgirl Elite
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yeah this is really weird now.....
whats happening with the CD Mark scores...they're a bit all over the place and they must be having a bit of an affect on the overall scores, even if its a small one....!!
So far they are varying a heck of a lot...
ebear - 7.1
kazgirl - 69.8
Immortal Lobster - 279.8
Immortal Lobster 2 - 653.4
RBR - 5.4
Thats some really screwy figures for what should be fairly standard hardware....
I wonder if it depends on whether you have a CD or DVD in the drive..... if it reads CD faster than DVD for example...
I'll give it a try in a minute...!!
More I think about it it must have an affect as my dvd-rw drives read speeds are stated as being:
CD-ROM = x48
DVDROM = x16
When I was looking for a disc to put in the drive I just grabbed the frist one that was close it may well be a DVD-ROM...
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Edited: 03/29/2008 at 09:13 PM by kazgirl
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03/29/2008 09:12 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean
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I used the same CD in both PCs
[edit]btw to add to the wierdness, the DVD-Drive in my Opteron rig is just that, a DVD-drive. I salvaged it from an old compaq, manufacture date was 2001. lol
but yet, it's score is 3 times better than my new HP 640c in this PC.
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Edited: 03/29/2008 at 09:17 PM by Immortal Lobster
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03/29/2008 09:24 PM
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kazgirl Elite
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Well if I'm right and its a dvd disc I put in, if I swap to a cd I should see a x3 improvement (approx.)
I'll give it a try later....in the middle of something else at the moment..!!
I know its not really that important and that I'd be better off improving the RAM, but its one of those odd littel things thats going to bug me.... lol..
PS. Loving the new graphs..... good job.... very nice colour schemes brings a bit of life to it...!!!!
Nice one..!!!
Out of curiosirty IL...is your DVD in the PC a SATA or IDE...
I ask as we both ahve the same chipset with the crappy SB600 so I can't even say that its related to the controller or anything... whats the max read speed for dvd-rom and cd-rom for your ODD...???
Just wondering if I put a CD in and get the x48 speed rather than the x16 speed, then my CD Marks should be about 209 or thereabouts which is a bit closer to the 279 of yours.... though still off a bit...
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Edited: 03/29/2008 at 09:33 PM by kazgirl
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03/29/2008 09:29 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean
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=)
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03/29/2008 09:57 PM
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ebear2100 Senior Member
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I'll try using something else aswell, I used a pre-recorded CD
John
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03/29/2008 10:21 PM
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RBR Case Modder
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This is from the Passmark program help files.
To use this test you need to have a CD in the CD Drive. The CD should, if possible, have mostly large files on the disc. Having many small files on the disc will lower the result, as the time required to seek between files is included in the result.
My 5.4 CD Mark score was with using a music CD. I just tried a DVD movie disc, and got a CD Mark score of 554.5, so there is a huge difference.
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03/29/2008 10:46 PM
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kazgirl Elite
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yeash I just tried it with a DVD I have as a backup DVD.... lots of files on it.... I tried a music CD, which was really slow as well...
The DVD got a higher score but its lots of small files on it...I'll try it again now with a DVD-move disc to see if that makes a bigger differene again..
The CD Mark makes up 9% of the overall score, so a 400-500 point gain on the CD Ark will give an addittional 40-50 points on the overall score...
which tally's with what I saw....
My origianl score was 1028...
Now it's gone up to 1066 so pretty much bang on the 9% increase....
Yes and using a DVD with larger files 2GB or so.... gives a CD Mark increase of another 200 9% of which is approx 20 points to add to the overall score.....
and so:
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*) kazgirl: AMD - Phenom 9500 @ 2200Mhz - Patriot PC26400 4x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-16 2T - PowerColor HD3870XT PCS (800/1170) - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - Vista HP x64 === 1085.6
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*) kazgirl: AMD - Phenom 9500 @ 2200Mhz - Patriot PC26400 4x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-16 2T - PowerColor HD3870XT PCS (800/1170) - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - Vista HP x64 === 2535.7
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*) kazgirl: AMD - Phenom 9500 @ 2200Mhz - Patriot PC26400 4x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-16 2T - PowerColor HD3870XT PCS (800/1170) - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - Vista HP x64 === 465.4
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*) kazgirl: AMD - Phenom 9500 @ 2200Mhz - Patriot PC26400 4x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-16 2T - PowerColor HD3870XT PCS (800/1170) - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - Vista HP x64 === 983.0
Disk
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*) kazgirl: AMD - Phenom 9500 @ 2200Mhz - Patriot PC26400 4x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-16 2T - PowerColor HD3870XT PCS (800/1170) - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - Vista HP x64 === 437.5
I wonder if having a CD with a 400mb file on it with the added read speed would get even larger CD Mark improvements.....lol..
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Edited: 03/29/2008 at 11:07 PM by kazgirl
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03/29/2008 11:16 PM
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theoldtimer Deprecated
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Overall
*) theoldtimer: Intel - Q6600 @ 3852.2mhz - OCZ PC8000 4x1GB 856mhz 5-5-5-15 - Radeon 3870x2 (825/???/900) - 1xWD-Raptor 10,000 150GB sata - Vista H.P. x64 === 2030.6
CPU
*) theoldtimer: Intel - Q6600 @ 3852.2mhz - OCZ PC8000 4x1GB 856mhz 5-5-5-15 - Radeon 3870x2 (825/???/900) - 1xWD-Raptor 10,000 150GB sata - Vista H.P. x64 === 5082.0
RAM
*) theoldtimer: Intel - Q6600 @ 3852.2mhz - OCZ PC8000 4x1GB 856mhz 5-5-5-15 - Radeon 3870x2 (825/???/900) - 1xWD-Raptor 10,000 150GB sata - Vista H.P. x64 === 1135.7
3D Graphics
*) theoldtimer: Intel - Q6600 @ 3852.2mhz - OCZ PC8000 4x1GB 856mhz 5-5-5-15 - Radeon 3870x2 (825/???/900) - 1xWD-Raptor 10,000 150GB sata - Vista H.P. x64 === 1034.8
Disk
*) theoldtimer: Intel - Q6600 @ 3852.2mhz - OCZ PC8000 4x1GB 856mhz 5-5-5-15 - Radeon 3870x2 (825/???/900) - 1xWD-Raptor 10,000 150GB sata - Vista H.P. x64 === 498.5
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03/29/2008 11:19 PM
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kazgirl Elite
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Just throwing out a suggestion here....
Would it be worth considering scrapping the overall score, as its pretty meaningless really isn't.... its too easily manipulated.....
maybe just have the CPU, Memory, Disk and 3D Graphics scores and focus on the results from them.....
At least that would give an indicction of best individual components kind of thing...
Maybe we could have a virtual best PC using the leading component for each of those as parts for the virtual PC.... lol...
OMG..!!!.... I am now officially a Geek...!!!  
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03/29/2008 11:26 PM
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Maybe not a bad idea, Kazgirl. Or we could all go out and get the same disc. 
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03/29/2008 11:33 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean
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Mine won't read movie DVDs, I tried 3 different ones, always get an error that it can't read the file.
<shrug>
Scrap the CD test all together, I'll continue with the overall score, but people should be aware that a CD score can easily invalidate it.
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Edited: 03/29/2008 at 11:38 PM by Immortal Lobster
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03/29/2008 11:38 PM
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Immortal Lobster Resident Crustacean
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Originally posted by: RBR
Maybe not a bad idea, Kazgirl. Or we could all go out and get the same disc. ![]()
Windows XP CD? everybody most likely has that?!
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03/30/2008 12:15 AM
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kazgirl Elite
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OK well I been spending the last hour overclcocking this new gfx card, and got it up to 875/1310 from 800/1170... high-lighted the score below... 
I used DVD-RW disc with some compressed DVD movies in AVI format on it.... about 4 1.4gb files....
And this is my final run of this for tonight..... you'll be glad to know..
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*) kazgirl: AMD - Phenom 9500 @ 2200Mhz - Patriot PC26400 4x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-16 2T - PowerColor HD3870XT PCS (875/1310) - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - Vista HP x64 === 464.8
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*) kazgirl: AMD - Phenom 9500 @ 2200Mhz - Patriot PC26400 4x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-16 2T - PowerColor HD3870XT PCS (875/1310) - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - Vista HP x64 === 1045.2
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*) kazgirl: AMD - Phenom 9500 @ 2200Mhz - Patriot PC26400 4x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-16 2T - PowerColor HD3870XT PCS (875/1310) - Seagate 7200.10 320GB - Vista HP x64 === 429.2
I'm really happy with the gfx increase as a result looking at others scores.... nice gain up from 983 to break the 1K score....
PS: I havn't got an XP disc,... sorry to say...... I got a Vista one though if that'll do....!!!
EDIT: just noticed I put the wrong score for DISK, edited it to the right score.....sorry for the mistake got that blinkin CD Mark score on my braqin tonight....!!!!
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Edited: 03/30/2008 at 12:36 AM by kazgirl
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03/30/2008 12:19 AM
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OK, here's mine with the Windows XP CD.
Overall
*) RBR: AMD - Athlon X2 5600+ @ 2800Mhz - Kingston Value PC6400 2x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-18 2T - XFX 8600GTS (675/1458/400) - Western Digital 3200AAKS 320GB - XP Home x32 === 689.8
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*) RBR: AMD - Athlon X2 5600+ @ 2800Mhz - Kingston Value PC6400 2x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-18 2T - XFX 8600GTS (675/1458/400) - Western Digital 3200AAKS 320GB - XP Home x32 === 1101.6
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*) RBR: AMD - Athlon X2 5600+ @ 2800Mhz - Kingston Value PC6400 2x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-18 2T - XFX 8600GTS (675/1458/400) - Western Digital 3200AAKS 320GB - XP Home x32 === 517.5
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*) RBR: AMD - Athlon X2 5600+ @ 2800Mhz - Kingston Value PC6400 2x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-18 2T - XFX 8600GTS (675/1458/400) - Western Digital 3200AAKS 320GB - XP Home x32 === 509.8
Disk
*) RBR: AMD - Athlon X2 5600+ @ 2800Mhz - Kingston Value PC6400 2x1GB 800Mhz 5-5-5-18 2T - XFX 8600GTS (675/1458/400) - Western Digital 3200AAKS 320GB - XP Home x32 === 529.7
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03/30/2008 12:23 AM
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Here we are
I used Ubuntu 6.06 CD for CD test, I think I'll retry with other stuff later
Overall
*) Xajel: AMD - Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @ 3.0GHz - Corsair XMS2 PC6400-C4 924MHz 5-5-5-18 - BFG GeForce 7950GT OC 512 @ (567/-/715) - 2x Seagate 7200.10 320GB - XP Pro SP2 32bit
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CPU
*) Xajel: AMD - Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @ 3.0GHz - Corsair XMS2 PC6400-C4 924MHz 5-5-5-18 - BFG GeForce 7950GT OC 512 @ (567/-/715) - 2x Seagate 7200.10 320GB - XP Pro SP2 32bit
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RAM
*) Xajel: AMD - Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @ 3.0GHz - Corsair XMS2 PC6400-C4 924MHz 5-5-5-18 - BFG GeForce 7950GT OC 512 @ (567/-/715) - 2x Seagate 7200.10 320GB - XP Pro SP2 32bit
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3D Graphics
*) Xajel: AMD - Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @ 3.0GHz - Corsair XMS2 PC6400-C4 924MHz 5-5-5-18 - BFG GeForce 7950GT OC 512 @ (567/-/715) - 2x Seagate 7200.10 320GB - XP Pro SP2 32bit
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Disk
*) Xajel: AMD - Athlon 64 X2 5000+ @ 3.0GHz - Corsair XMS2 PC6400-C4 924MHz 5-5-5-18 - BFG GeForce 7950GT OC 512 @ (567/-/715) - 2x Seagate 7200.10 320GB - XP Pro SP2 32bit
=== 505.0
Edited: 03/30/2008 at 12:26 AM by Xajel
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