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Created On: 01/13/2004 08:19 AM
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 01/13/2004 08:19 AM
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what is the difference between 3200 and the 3000 model cpu. Is it a noticable difference? im not sure wether to buy the 3000 or the 3200 the price isnt really a prob but it will just take longer too save. and also if I got the Asus K8V mb would I really need a sound card.
 01/13/2004 08:24 AM
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the 3000+ has 512KB of integrated L2 cache and the 3200+ has 1MB.. both are 2GHz.. so in most applications where cache isnt all that important you wont see much of a difference if any.. I have a K8V deluxe and the onboard audio sounds "ok" but it cant compare very well to my Audigy.. from a few reviews I've read there can sometimes be issues with audio feedback from other devices.. like having static or scratching sounds while accessing your harddrive or network. I dont have a first hand account of this, but I did listen to the integrated K8V audio and compared it to my audigy.. i prefered the Audigy. It also doesnt take as much CPU usage (since the integrated audio of the K8V is AC97 it offsets a lot of the audio processing onto the CPU.)

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 01/13/2004 08:24 AM
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If were talking about the A64 here

3000+ :
2.0 GHz
512KB of level 2 cache

3200+ :
2.0 GHz
1,024KB of level 2 cache

If the extra cash is nothing to you, the 3200+ its very worth it indeed

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 01/13/2004 08:30 AM
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so having say sound blaster live 5.1 would that speed up the pc
 01/13/2004 08:34 AM
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I wouldn't exactly say it would speed it up.. but itll probably have a lower CPU usage than the AC97 audio on the K8V.. Im not sure how much you would notice, if at all.. but what's keeping me from tossing my Audigy is the interference ive read about with other devices. I like my audio to be as close to defect free as I can get it

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 01/13/2004 08:43 AM
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Is this interference a big problem or a small one say for someone that is not all fussy on sound but wants good surround sound.
 01/13/2004 08:47 AM
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from reports Ive read it can get pretty annoying just having your speakers turned on.. you get audible noise from the speakers from activity of different devices in your machine.. Im not saying this happens on every K8V (or integrated audio solution for that matter) but i went a long time with a normal sound card that did the same thing.. like a slight audible tone while scrolling a page in IE, or slight crackling while doing a search for a file on my hard drive, etc. I know how annoying it can be, some people may not even be able to hear it. but I find it extremely annoying.

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 01/13/2004 08:52 AM
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So it wouldnt be like a huge distorted noise while playing a game or watching a DVD
 01/13/2004 08:57 AM
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it depends on how bad it can get. like I said I didnt use the integrated audio of the K8V long enough to find out, it just didnt sound as crisp and clear as my audigy so i disabled it and installed my audigy. If you have a SB live laying around, try out the integrated audio first and see if you find any problems with it. if you do you can easily put in the SB Live

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 01/13/2004 09:01 AM
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I've done some Googling on the matter, and can't find anything to say that there's excessive hum.

I run my onboard Soundmax Cadenza 6-channel surround on my Asus A7V8X-X, and it performs beautfully. I never hear any access noises, even with the volume cranked. Maybe I'm just lucky. The only reason I'm retiring the board is because I'm getting another, faster board, and giving the Via board to the G/F.

I use heavy cache and FPU-intensive programs, so I'd opt for a 3200+ or 3400+. That's me though.
 01/13/2004 09:12 AM
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yes its quite possible you wont hear any interferance at all. but the possibility is there (as with just about any sound card, but some are built better than others and reduce any noise generated by other devices) So try the integrated audio and see how you like it. if you dont like it, quality sound cards arent hard to come by (Audigys are like $40 on pricewatch) If youre in a money crunch itll be really hard to beat the 3000+

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