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 08/28/2004 03:14 AM
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http://emachines.com/products/....htm...eMachines_T3092' ">http://emachines.com/products/...l?prod=eMachines_T3092 MY PC


Read my sig what mobo should i upgrade to i have an FIC K7M-NF18G (AU31) n can I use 3200 DDR Ram n what video card can i get n the price n what cooler can i use on this pc

my pc is a emachine t-3092 LINK UP TOP (new pc)


p.s or should i keep my mobo n get 2 gbs of ram 2700 0r 3200 n a good video card

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|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
 08/28/2004 10:05 AM
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are u gaming or just for plain home use (ie. email, word processing)

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 08/28/2004 10:59 AM
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I want 2 make a home pc / gaming pc want do both

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|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
 08/28/2004 11:29 AM
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Well how much u willing to spend on a new graphics card... A new graphics card a u will have a great budget machine...

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 08/28/2004 11:38 AM
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no more then 250$ but which do u think i should get i may save up for it but nothing like 650$ lol

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|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
 08/29/2004 02:02 AM
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can some 1 help n help me get a video card that is a good 1

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|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
 08/29/2004 08:49 AM
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you can pick up a 9800 pro 256mb graphics card for 250 or less!

or a 5900ultra 256mb nvidia geforce for that price or under!
 08/29/2004 04:11 PM
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anything else thats good around that price

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|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
 08/29/2004 04:17 PM
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9800 Pro for 200 or a 6800NU for 300... If u can dish out 300 bucks definitely get the 6800NU...

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 08/29/2004 05:37 PM
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what is better 6800 or 5900ultra n do u no what compant or do u got a link 2 to em that will help alot thank yalll

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|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
 08/29/2004 05:54 PM
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6800 by far man...If uc an affored one , GET IT !

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 08/29/2004 07:31 PM
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yeah 6800 definitly

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 08/29/2004 08:53 PM
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i read from post on this site that there is problems wit the 6800 ??? which brand should is it n which is some good brands

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|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
 08/29/2004 10:54 PM
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The 6800 is by far your best performance improvement. The set up you have will actually lag behind it. E machines rivits there MOBOs in so you will need to get a new case if you go that route as a standard atx MOBO will not fit. The boards bios, which is the worst for tweaking will not give you any options for any other type of performance gains but bumping the ram to 1024 will make a gaming difference. I would recommend you get a 150-200 dollar range card, play hard with benching programs and games and see if you're really going to get into this and stay into it. By the time you get your system upto speed for a 6800, the price will have come down(IMPORTANT no one mentioned that the little power supply in an e Machine won't handle a 6800, they are power hungry GPs. Anyhow stick around and don't get overly impulsive, it can be very expesive(I started with an e machine too T2625 It holds parts now in my closet

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 08/30/2004 03:31 AM
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thanks alot arealsparky lol @ ur emachine but i got a bigger pc thats needs 2 be rebuilding so i will use that 1 im a amd fan n i saw amd had a forum so i signed up didnt want to buy a 200 plus video card n get no better performance

so i will use my old case n get a AMD 64 1 gb of ram a good mobo n then get the 6800 n find a big power supply

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|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
 08/30/2004 05:01 PM
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I am building a computer with an MSI Neo2 Nforce 3 Mobo and a socket 939 3500. I will be using an MSI Radeon 9800 Pro video card, case and PSU undecided yet. I already recieved my two WD Raptors in 74GB each. Ram considerations linked here. Which crucial is best? Which Kingston? Which OCZ, ect? Which would you go with? Would you go up to pc3500 or 4000 for this mobo?

The OCZ:

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...asp?...rtby=14&order=1' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...asp?...rtby=14&order=1

The crucial

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...asp?...e=2&listStyle=2' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...asp?...e=2&listStyle=2

Kingston:

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...asp?...rtby=14&order=1' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...asp?...rtby=14&order=1

Corsair

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...asp?...rtby=14&order=1' ">http://www.newegg.com/app/View...asp?...rtby=14&order=1
 08/30/2004 05:30 PM
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AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ Processor
QuantiSpeed™ Architecture operates at 2.167 GHz
512KB L2 cache & 333MHz FSB

can I use PC3200 Ram? (aka DDR400)
No

so what RAM can I use?
DDR333 (aka PC2700)

512 MB DDR (PC 2700)
Expandable to 2 GB - Should I get 2 gigs?
Do you really need 2 gigs?
Even serious gamers usually don't need 2 gigs.
Three 184-pin DDR DIMM
This means you have to have 2 x 1GB (OR) 1 x 1GB + 2 x 512MB chips.
How much is that gonna cost you?
Alot!
Which is the cheaper setup?
Probably 2 x 512 chips at DDR333.
1 GB of memory is better at DDR333 than 512 MB at DDR400.
Get 1 gig for now and see how you do! Leave the money for a decent video card if you really want one!

For Matchload

First check the list for RAM that has been tested to work with this motherboard....

SECOND!
www.Google.com for this "MSI forums"
Read up on the GOOD RAM vs the BAD RAM and see if the models you want making sure they are not in the BAD catogory or if anyone has posted problems with them.

PC3500 + PC4000 are purley overclocking modules.
PC3200 is the norm aka DDR400. Are you going to be overclocking these?

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|| ATi Radeon 9550 256 MB DDR, AGP 4X/8X, RETAIL version (upgrade)
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 08/30/2004 05:34 PM
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I plan on playing around with overclocking. The 4000 is just ten bucks more per stick than the 3200. However, the 4000 is cas 2.5
 08/30/2004 11:19 PM
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Because of popularity ddr 400 is usually cheaper, My next move is to bump up to 3500 or more ram, but I have yet to verify if it will improve any, My corsair pro has never done me wrong and I've already clocked it over 3500 spec with a 2,3,3,8 setting at 2.8v, stability verified by mem check in dos


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Corsair XMS3200C2PRO,ATI X800Pro
2-Maxtor 160Gb EIDE RAID 0
Promise Tx2000 Raid Controller
Creative Sound Blaster AUdigy 2 ZS Prodigy
Danger Den Maze 4 TEC Water Cooled
Aerocool 520W PS and Aspire 500 watt Aux. PS
Lite-On 16XDVDRW, Logitiech Accessories
 08/31/2004 05:59 AM
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isnt this my mobo from my emachine

http://www.fic.com.tw/product/...ard/...px?model_id=137' ">http://www.fic.com.tw/product/...tail.aspx?model_id=137

http://www.fic.cz/product_doc-...0CB5...9700281ED8.html' ">http://www.fic.cz/product_doc-...CC1256E9700281ED8.html

it has only has 2 184-pin DDR DIMM slots so i cant do 1 x 1GB + 2 x 512MB chips.and it says DDR SDRAM PC3200

n on 1 site it says 400 fsb

plus it says Athlon XP 3200+ and up how far up can i go up 2

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Specifications

|| AMD Athlon™ XP 3000+ || Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition sp1 ||
|| nVIDIA® nForce™2 || 512 MB DDR (PC 2700) || Hard Drive: 160 GB HDD (7200 RPM) ||
|| LiteOn DVD-RW Drive n 48x Max. CD-ROM Drive ||
|| 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager || nVIDIA® GeForce4™ MX graphics ||
|| nForce™ 6-channel Audio ||

Price 500$ with a 3 year In-Home Service Warranty
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