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 07/13/2005 08:43 AM
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jbschaufele
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I want to upgrade the processor speed on my system. I just recently started playing Battlefield 2 and find that my processor is just below the minimum spec for the game. I already upgraded my video from an Nvidia GeForce 3 TI 200 64MB card to a ATI Radeo 9800 Pro 256MB. But my game performance, especially load time is still slow.

I want to upgrade to the fastest processor that I can afford. But I am unsure what is compatible with my system. I need help figuring out the compatability. My biggest concern is regarding the FSB. If I am limited to processors that match my MoBo's FSB, then I am really limited. So if somebody could explain some FSB compatability concepts to me as well, I'd appreciate it.

My system specs currently are:

MoBo: Soyo K7 Dragon Plus - ATX, Socket A, 266 FSB with VIA 266 Chipset
Processor: AMD Athlon 1900+ (I can't remember if it is an Athlon XP or not)
RAM: 2 - 512 DIMMs (both PC2700 - different makers, but they work fine together.)
Video: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP (4x, 8x) 256MB - (MoBo is limited to 4x on AGP slot)
HDD: 2- Maxtor Diamond 9 Plus 120GB drives - mirrored on integrated Promise RAID channel
NIC: VIA Integrated 10/100
PSU: Generic 300Watt
Miscellaneous: Generic USB 2.0 PCI card, Generic 56V Modem PCI card, Via Firewire PCI card
OS: XP Pro

My hardware has functioned well for about three years. I built it myself. Recently I had a challenge installing the ATI vid card. There was some conflict with the ATI driver and the VIA chipset. I finally wiped the C partition and re-installed my OS. Everything is working well now. No problems for about a week. I just want better performance while playing BF2.

Thanks for any help or tips you can provide.

Jay
 07/13/2005 09:17 AM
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Dont bother unless your gonna change motherboard. if you are willing too id reccomend Socket 939.

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 07/13/2005 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(O'Neil @ Jul 13 2005, 09:17 AM)Dont bother unless your gonna change motherboard. if you are willing too id reccomend Socket 939.
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Are you saying that I won't get any enough improvement to help BF2, due to the MoBo's limitations? Or are you saying the hardware is too old already to worry about upgrading?

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 07/13/2005 11:09 AM
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The hardware is already a bit too old ... Yea, you need to upgrade the motherboard ... Reason being is 4x AGP which will slow down things a lot ... You can get a NF3 S939 motherboard for $85 or so and pair it up with a $150 AMD 3000+ Venice and then you'd be all set up to go. But, you might also need to change the memory as the one you currently have is PC2700, to PC3200. You can get a 1 GB for $80 online and if you search for deals, you can get it for $40.

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 07/13/2005 11:31 AM
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technic58
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which CPU dyu hav right now? i missed that part /blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' />

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...ist....Submit=Property' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...ry=343&Submit=Property

if a new systems costs are to high for you, you might consider getting a mobile athlon XP...perform well, run cool, and will OC pretty far if u want to resort to that...

post back let us kno wat ull do

ALSO: how would AGP4x b holding him back? it shouldnt b too much..isnt that where we r right now with bandwith usage?

EDIT: o ok just saw that he has the XP 1900+..well thats not that bad...

again, check out the mobile CPUs, but the 939 will b faster and a bit more future proof...

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 07/13/2005 12:04 PM
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I thought I could get away with a cheap $50-$75 investement to get some better performance. If that's not the case as the CPU might not be the bottleneck, then I would probably opt to build a new system altogether. By the time I throw $450 at an upgrade, I could double it and get a decent setup for 3D gaming. I can use my current box as a file storage server.

The only problem is the video card will still cost mucho $$$. And if I want to be future-proof I can't use AGP anymore. So the $190 VPU I just bought was a deadend purchase of sorts.

Man some lessons are a little expensive to learn.

Jay
 07/13/2005 12:25 PM
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$190? You can get the 9800 Pro for $100 these days ...

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 07/13/2005 12:31 PM
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the only 9800Pro's ive seen around 100 bcuks were refurbished..

and if u do upgrade, i would recommend the ATI X700Pro..got mine for $110 refurbished off newegg and its a great card...not anything like an X850, but does wat i need it to do. also OCs nice..

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 07/13/2005 01:49 PM
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9800 Pro Refurb for $86' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16814102362R

PNY 6800 Refurb for $142' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16814133114R

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 07/13/2005 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(athlonfx @ Jul 13 2005, 01:49 PM)9800 Pro Refurb for $86' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16814102362R

PNY 6800 Refurb for $142' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...?Item=N82E16814133114R
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I avoid refurbs and used, unless I have no alternative. Mine is actually a 256MB. I've found some posts claiming I can flash it, add a bigger heat sink and make it a 9800XT. I might try it. I lost the link thugh. I think it was on an ATI sponsored forum site, or a VIA site.
 07/13/2005 03:06 PM
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if you can overclock your card to XT speeds, there is no point in risking a flash to an XT bios...

and, seeing the words "generic 300w psu" gives me cold chills...

BF2 is going to put a mighty strain on your system, and I think your CPU will be a big bottleneck since the X700Pro (which performs similarly to the 9800XT in certain cases) manages 56 fps with an FX-55 based system (Anandtech).



edit: in keeping with the spirit of the thread...

XP 2400+ Mobile 45w' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?Item=N82E16819103400 great overclocking potential, 512mb L2 cache... 77 bucks...

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