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 11/25/2005 10:25 AM
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trickson
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ok thies are the ones I have been looking at so far want your input as witch one will the THE VERY BEST and last the longest and give THE best performance .. thank you ..

http://www.monarchcomputer.com...t2/m...ory_Code=ps-ocz' ">http://www.monarchcomputer.com...3&Category_Code=ps-ocz

this one looks impresive but this one also looks the same ..

http://www.monarchcomputer.com...t2/m...y_Code=ps-antec' ">http://www.monarchcomputer.com...Category_Code=ps-antec

please help witch one do I get? or should I just get them both? /blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /> /biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /> .

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 11/25/2005 11:02 AM
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Well I'd advise you to get them both, try them, and mail me the best one /biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

More seriously, in general more watts is always more likely to satisfy future needs, but then again who knows what will be out in 2 years, so I wouldn't base my choice on 600>550

I like antec, just bought the NeoPower 480, so I'd say go for antec, even though the other one seems to be just as good ! Plus u're getting the antec P180, I like to have stuff from the same brand

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 11/25/2005 11:22 AM
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Honestly, this' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?Item=N82E16817101516 is what I'd look at.

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 11/25/2005 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(Silk_the_Absent1 @ Nov 25 2005, 05:22 PM)Honestly, this' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?Item=N82E16817101516 is what I'd look at.

-Adam


Yeah looks good... But if you're gonna drop to 480W, why not consider the antec neopower ?

EDIT: The Antec Phantom 500W outperforms the Tagan TG480-U22 480W...

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 11/25/2005 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(boule @ Nov 25 2005, 11:26 AM)Yeah looks good... But if you're gonna drop to 480W, why not consider the antec neopower ?

EDIT: The Antec Phantom 500W outperforms the Tagan TG480-U22 480W...
[right][snapback]553590[/snapback][/right]

trickson may be wary of modular power supplies because the ones he's talking about that fried his system were Ultra X-connects...

the antec phantom is grossly overpriced, and since it's basicly a passive psu, it gets very warm (yes, I know it has a fan)

would you care to provide some evidence that the 500w Phantom outperforms the Tagan U22?

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 11/25/2005 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(trickson @ Nov 25 2005, 07:25 AM)ok thies are the ones I have been looking at so far want your input as witch one will the THE VERY BEST and last the longest and give THE best performance .. thank you ..
[right][snapback]553566[/snapback][/right]


well, for very best and longest life and best performance, this baby is nice:

http://www.monarchcomputer.com...t2/m...powerandcooling' ">http://www.monarchcomputer.com...e=ps-pcpowerandcooling

1000W PC&C /laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' /> and only $460 /wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

but between the two you show, if money's not an issue (OCZ is double the price), i'd go with OCZ Powerstream. adjustable pots are nice.

another good choice for long term and great reliability is this:
http://www.monarchcomputer.com...t2/m...Code=ps-enermax' ">http://www.monarchcomputer.com...tegory_Code=ps-enermax

Enermax 600W, with rebate, its $100. I heard a lot of good stuff about that PSU, and if its anything like my 485W model, it's rails are rock solid (+/- .02V on mine)
 11/25/2005 11:53 AM
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wow thouse are sweet the first one is a bit more than I want to spend but I will consider it in my plans I would like to see that one in my system ..

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 11/25/2005 12:00 PM
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yeah, PC&C is the rolls-royce of power supplies. even their 600W models are over $200. ouch!
 11/25/2005 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(MrWicked1968 @ Nov 25 2005, 05:49 PM)trickson may be wary of modular power supplies because the ones he's talking about that fried his system were Ultra X-connects...

the antec phantom is grossly overpriced, and since it's basicly a passive psu, it gets very warm (yes, I know it has a fan)

would you care to provide some evidence that the 500w Phantom outperforms the Tagan U22?


I read a review on this website' ">http://www.blue-hardware.com/d...imentations/page14.php.
Unfortunatly it's in french, so u'd be more interested in checking the graphics:
idle mode' ">http://www.blue-hardware.com/d.../graphs/graph-idle.png
full mode' ">http://www.blue-hardware.com/d.../graphs/graph-full.png
and the summary of the roundap' ">http://www.blue-hardware.com/d...tos/graphs/details.png

U'll be disappointed to see that the Antec is not the only one they place above the Tagan... The Enermax suggested by Prelude 76 also outperformes it, but is below the antec.

I didn't base my comment on that single review, but I pasted this one because it shows the 3 PSUs on the same graphics.

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 11/25/2005 12:45 PM
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Antec 550 all the way.


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 11/25/2005 12:47 PM
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that doesn't disappoint me at all, all I wanted was some clarification of your point...although pointing to a French language article isn't what I had in mind...don't get me wrong, I might get a NeoHE the next time I can afford another build....but it really helps around here when you back up what you say.....no one likes a fanboi...

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 11/25/2005 12:59 PM
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whoah, the Tagan goes 11.77V on IDLE with extra vcore. That's almost 2% off spec just at idle (consider PSU should be within 5%)

interesting results. i'm gonna have to double check my Enermax with a scope. just with software, on full load and higher vcore overclocked, it still reads 11.98V (its 12.02V on idle)
 11/25/2005 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(MrWicked1968 @ Nov 25 2005, 06:47 PM)that doesn't disappoint me at all, all I wanted was some clarification of your point...although pointing to a French language article isn't what I had in mind...don't get me wrong, I might get a NeoHE the next time I can afford another build....but it really helps around here when you back up what you say.....no one likes a fanboi...


Yeah I know what you mean... Usually when I post something without "I think, I guess, might, IMO", u know, that kind of stuff, I'm not expressing an opinion but stating a fact I can back up. The reason why I didn't post the link right away is because it was in french.
But I'm sure with some googling u'll be able to find a review in english that says the same. I'm still looking at comparasions with the neopower I have. I'll post links if I find interesting ones

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 11/25/2005 03:06 PM
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cool thanks.. boule..

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