 07/26/2005 07:08 PM
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TheReturnOfAZ Senior Member

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yeah the 44 being 2 37s, with the better cache and all, its hard to believe they sell so many 42s...
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 07/26/2005 07:09 PM
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JesterOnYEr6 Senior Member

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QUOTE(TheReturnOfAZ @ Jul 26 2005, 06:07 PM)get the 37 if you are gaming
because you are supposed to match the FSB by the DDR rating divided by 2, DDR400/2 = 200 matches the default clock. DDR means double data rate thats you you divide.
unless you cant get as good timings with PC3200, but you can. [right][snapback]469029[/snapback][/right]
Negative the FSB uses the HTT multiplier it is 5X defaukt on the SD core he is thinking about and as you raise the bus you lower the multi.
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 07/26/2005 07:09 PM
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Erasmus Alpha Geek

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So should I for got ddr 400 or 500? I am gettin a bit confused /tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
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 07/26/2005 07:09 PM
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TheReturnOfAZ Senior Member

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overclocking: 500 not: 400
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 07/26/2005 07:10 PM
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FreeTheRock Senior Member

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QUOTE(Erasmus @ Jul 26 2005, 06:07 PM)that 4400 is about $400 more, can't do that with this budget, cause its a from scratch system and what not. Can some1 get me a link to that Tagan psu? [right][snapback]469028[/snapback][/right] Tagan TG480-U22' ">http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?Item=N82E16817101516
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 07/26/2005 07:10 PM
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Erasmus Alpha Geek

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Now do you mean overclocking just the ram? Or overclocking the gpu and cpu?
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 07/26/2005 07:10 PM
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TheReturnOfAZ Senior Member

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QUOTE(JesterOnYEr6 @ Jul 26 2005, 06:09 PM)Negative the FSB uses the HTT multiplier it is 5X defaukt on the SD core he is thinking about and as you raise the bus you lower the multi. [right][snapback]469031[/snapback][/right]
wait what
erasmus dont take my advice yet lets see what he means
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 07/26/2005 07:11 PM
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JesterOnYEr6 Senior Member

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Get the DDR 500 that way you can run the FSB at 250 X2 =500 mem clock & 250 X 4 HTT = 1000 FSB. If you use thememory divider you skew your ram I like to have full DDR2 then you run at a 9X multi to be at stock speeds and then you atart adding core voltage and raising the clock multiplier.
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 07/26/2005 07:14 PM
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dot_pixel651 Senior Member

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i know but if i had $2000 i would first look into an X2. /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
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 07/26/2005 07:14 PM
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Erasmus Alpha Geek

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ok, I got that ddr 500 Corsair XMS, that Tagan PSU, and the ASUS A8N SLI. Shold be good. /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /> Thanks
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 07/26/2005 07:18 PM
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TheReturnOfAZ Senior Member

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QUOTE(JesterOnYEr6 @ Jul 26 2005, 06:11 PM)Get the DDR 500 that way you can run the FSB at 250 X2 =500 mem clock & 250 X 4 HTT = 1000 FSB. If you use thememory divider you skew your ram I like to have full DDR2 then you run at a 9X multi to be at stock speeds and then you atart adding core voltage and raising the clock multiplier. [right][snapback]469038[/snapback][/right]
AKA... OVERCLOCKING... right? he said he wasnt going to
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 07/26/2005 07:25 PM
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JesterOnYEr6 Senior Member

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QUOTE(TheReturnOfAZ @ Jul 26 2005, 06:18 PM)AKA... OVERCLOCKING... right? he said he wasnt going to [right][snapback]469046[/snapback][/right]
He can run DDR500 at stock speeds more bandwidth. /tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
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 07/26/2005 07:27 PM
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dot_pixel651 Senior Member

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is DDR2 stable to use yet?
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 07/26/2005 07:29 PM
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JesterOnYEr6 Senior Member

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QUOTE(dot_pixel651 @ Jul 26 2005, 06:27 PM)is DDR2 stable to use yet?
dot. [right][snapback]469061[/snapback][/right]
yep with the right board and the right memory and the right timings and the right vdimm voltage.
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 07/26/2005 07:37 PM
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TheReturnOfAZ Senior Member

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that no overclocking dealie sounds cool ill have to try it yet it still seems strange to me
EDIT whoa wait jester just read that thing i dont think thats always possible, if it were would not AMD do it? ill try it of course, but it seems too good to be true...
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 07/26/2005 08:14 PM
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Erasmus Alpha Geek

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So wait, if I am overclocking what board am I gonna want? He's gonna be overclockin this thing
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 07/26/2005 08:33 PM
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TheReturnOfAZ Senior Member

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dfi lanparty sli-dr
and some pc4000 mem like jester was saying
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 07/26/2005 08:35 PM
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Erasmus Alpha Geek

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K, I that DFI LanParty SLI thing, and some ddr 500 Corsair XMS ram. /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
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 07/26/2005 08:37 PM
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JesterOnYEr6 Senior Member

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DFi NF4 Ultra D, dont get the SLI board unless he is running dual cards.
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 07/26/2005 08:37 PM
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TheReturnOfAZ Senior Member

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if you like the corsair
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