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 02/17/2005 11:27 PM
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Dark_Night50
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OK i have a:

AMD XP 3000+ OCed @ 2.375
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FX5700LE

I have $420 to spend and i need a better video card and more RAM. My decision is to get 512mb more RAM and a 6600GT video card and get the other 512mb later (im not going to use the RAM im using now because it is terrible.) The RAM im getting is an OCZ 2-3-3-6 Revision 3 because they are really cheap and not bad timings. The video card im getting is either an XFX 6600GT or a BFG 6600GT. I dont know which one. Which video card will OC better and which is more reliable??? I live in canada so the prices are correct. Thnks for the help
 02/17/2005 11:47 PM
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DEFINITLY get more RAM, 256 is not enough.....and if you have enough $ left over then go for the 6600GT....that card is a good value

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 02/18/2005 01:24 AM
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What are the timings on that 256 stick you have now? If they're really terrible, I'd suggest leaving it out. 512 will be okay for you for now, because the computer will only run as fast as the slowest stick you have in there. If it's about the same, you could leave it. But if it's the typical budget 3-4-4-8, take it out.

For a bit more money, you could get a 6800. They have 12 pipes, the 6600 has only 8. Plus, if you're lucky, you can softmod it to unlock the pipes, and have a 16 pipe card, and they overclocked pretty well. (At least mine does, but it's hit and miss sometimes just like CPU's, everyone is a little different).
 02/18/2005 02:48 AM
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well u can get a 6800 non ultra non gt the 12 pipe card for about 250 in the states

the 6600gt is only a great deal in pci-e right now as its about 40 bucks cheaper then the agp one, but i would get the 6800NU for about 250 then u got enough to get a gig of ram too

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 02/18/2005 05:20 PM
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I live in canada and the 6600GT AGP and PCIe are about the same price (10-20 dollars difference) and the 6600GTs are about $300 and the 6800s are $400 so thats $100 difference which it is alot (for me anyway)

the timings on my 256mb are 2.5-3-3-7 pc-2700 and i think its better if i get a new video card and 512mb RAM instead of just 1GB RAM or a 6800.

Oh and when i do get my RAM should i leave the old one in there or take it out and leave it as 512mb? and which company would be better XFX or BFG (i dont care about the lifetime warrenty from BFG im going to OC)
 02/18/2005 08:12 PM
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if your going to over clock get gainward golden sample

depends on the timmings of the 256mb stick if they are the same as the 512 stick leave it if they are worse take it out ,if better leave it
 02/19/2005 12:26 AM
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I have always heard that the BFG cards are good at overclocking. I don't have any direct experience with them myself, but that is what I have heard on other forums from people that have their cards.

As for RAM, get a quality name brand like OCZ, Corsair, Mushkin, etc. Stay away from the generic stuff.

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 02/19/2005 12:37 AM
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QUOTE (Java @ Feb 18 2005, 09:26 PM) I have always heard that the BFG cards are good at overclocking.  I don't have any direct experience with them myself, but that is what I have heard on other forums from people that have their cards.

As for RAM, get a quality name brand like OCZ, Corsair, Mushkin, etc.  Stay away from the generic stuff.
Ya thats what i heard i was wondering if anyone had any experience with it but everyone is recommending the XFX 6600GT everywhere oh i learned my lesson with buying RAM. Go of the named brands.......
 02/19/2005 02:35 AM
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Well, you could just get another 256Mb stick for now. 512 Mb is plenty except for a couple games. You can get RAM anytime, it never goes out of style. Video cards on the other hand, have a short product life cycle, and you're better off spending the money on a video card. Although $$$/performance ratio, the 6600GT is really hard to beat right now. 2.5-3-3-7 isn't bad at all for cheaper ram. Now considering that you only have a 333 FSB CPU, you might be able to overclock more if you get a stick of low-latency 512 MB PC3200 ram, and just replace that PC2700 256 stick.

So that's what I recommend. Get a 512 Mb stick of PC3200, and a 6600GT, if you can afford it.
 02/19/2005 02:42 AM
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The geforce fx5700le 256mb ddr aint a good video card?
 02/19/2005 02:45 AM
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QUOTE (AMDizzle @ Feb 18 2005, 11:42 PM) The geforce fx5700le 256mb ddr aint a good video card?
Well, the FX5700 is not bad for the FX series, but I think the key here is the 'le'. Some have affectionately referred to it standing for "l43m3r edition", or "loser" etc., I think it stands for "lite edition". LMAO, Doom3 really sucks on it btw, 27 - 30 FPS, compared to 88 FPS on my 6800... (10x7 High Quality)
 02/19/2005 02:49 AM
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but is there a big price difference between the cards?
 02/19/2005 03:02 AM
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QUOTE (AMDizzle @ Feb 18 2005, 11:49 PM) but is there a big price difference between the cards?
Not much. If you compare the price of an FX 5700 when it first came out to the price I paid for my 6800 (about 2 weeks after they hit the shelves), about the same. Everything drops in price after while. He's decided to get the 6600GT, so we're just helping him out with the ram. (And which brand of card to get). As far as that goes, Gainward looks nice. If you're choice is XFX or BFG, definelty go with BFG. XFX is flakey. BFG lifetime warranty, big cooler, nuff said.

EDIT: Oh, I see what you're asking. The 6600Gt is only like $199 here in the US. Doesn't matter how much more it is than the FX 5700. Trust me, it will save you money in the long run b/c you won't have to replace it so soon, and it's worth every penny. The FX is old news.
 02/19/2005 03:17 AM
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QUOTE (AMDizzle @ Feb 18 2005, 09:49 PM) but is there a big price difference between the cards?
I can tell you, that when I bought my 5700 Ultra 1 year ago, I paid about as much as you pay today for a 6600GT. How sick do you think I feel now?

Back to topic -

I would probably go for another 256 MB stick of RAM, and a 6600GT. Good deal, and a nice performance increase.

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 02/19/2005 03:49 AM
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QUOTE (Java @ Feb 18 2005, 11:26 PM) I have always heard that the BFG cards are good at overclocking. I don't have any direct experience with them myself, but that is what I have heard on other forums from people that have their cards.

As for RAM, get a quality name brand like OCZ, Corsair, Mushkin, etc. Stay away from the generic stuff.
I got my 6800 GT running at Ultra speeds. BFG is a very good quality card...

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 02/19/2005 12:28 PM
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OK ill guess ill go with the BFG 6600GT card and this RAM:

http://ncix.com/products/index...=120...gy&promoid=1030' ">http://ncix.com/products/index...echnology&promoid=1030

2-3-3-6 good timings on TCCC chips well lowest possible but anyway thnks alot

Anyone have any experience with a XFX or BFG 6600GT so i know around what to expect from it???
 02/19/2005 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (Dark_Night50 @ Feb 19 2005, 09:28 AM) OK ill guess ill go with the BFG 6600GT card and this RAM:

http://ncix.com/products/index...=120...gy&promoid=1030' ">http://ncix.com/products/index...echnology&promoid=1030

2-3-3-6 good timings on TCCC chips well lowest possible but anyway thnks alot

Anyone have any experience with a XFX or BFG 6600GT so i know around what to expect from it???
Very good choice of ram. The BFG comes overclocked out of the box, lifetime warranty, so you'll do good with that. Enjoy! Oh, btw, don't leave that 256 Mb stick in there, sell it or something. You should be able to get some wicked overclocks with that ram, since it's good up to about 440 Mhz DDR. (220 FSB).

I also have similar ram, the copper heatspreaders are beautiful, try not to touch them though, as fingerprints will tarnish the copper...
 02/19/2005 02:17 PM
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QUOTE (Dark_Night50 @ Feb 19 2005, 09:28 AM) OK ill guess ill go with the BFG 6600GT card and this RAM:

http://ncix.com/products/index...=120...gy&promoid=1030' ">http://ncix.com/products/index...echnology&promoid=1030

2-3-3-6 good timings on TCCC chips well lowest possible but anyway thnks alot

Anyone have any experience with a XFX or BFG 6600GT so i know around what to expect from it???
get better and faster RAM since you'll be OCing unless you don't mind running 3-4-4-10 timings
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QUOTE (nwo @ Feb 19 2005, 11:17 AM)QUOTE (Dark_Night50 @ Feb 19 2005, 09:28 AM) OK ill guess ill go with the BFG 6600GT card and this RAM:

http://ncix.com/products/index...=120...gy&promoid=1030' ">http://ncix.com/products/index...echnology&promoid=1030

2-3-3-6 good timings on TCCC chips well lowest possible but anyway thnks alot

Anyone have any experience with a XFX or BFG 6600GT so i know around what to expect from it???
get better and faster RAM since you'll be OCing unless you don't mind running 3-4-4-10 timings
He doesnt need better ram.His FSB is 333=2x166MHz.He can o/c to 2x220=440MHz without touching the stock timings.


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 02/19/2005 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Zaxon @ Feb 19 2005, 11:56 AM) He doesnt need better ram.His FSB is 333=2x166MHz.He can o/c to 2x220=440MHz without touching the stock timings.
o.O

I thought he had a 400FSB....

nvm then

I'd still go with 86 buck PC4000 that way you won't have to trash it when you upgrade to an A64
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