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 02/13/2006 09:43 PM
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I need to purchase a new processor for my computer. I need to decide between an Opteron 170, and an Athlon X2 4400+

I will be using it mostly for web design, photoshop, and gaming. If you don't mind, please put a reason with your suggestion.

I don't plan on overclocking it out of the box, maybe a couple months or maybe a year. But when I do OC it it will not be a whole lot.
 02/13/2006 09:45 PM
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Opteron 170. It's cheaper and will overclock better.

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 02/13/2006 09:46 PM
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Oh yeah, sorry.

I don't plan on overclocking it to begin with. And if I do, its not going to be overclocked a lot.
 02/13/2006 09:48 PM
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quote:

Originally posted by: fszone Oh yeah, sorry.

I don't plan on overclocking it to begin with. And if I do, its not going to be overclocked a lot.


Overclock the 170 to 2.2GHz (same as the 4400) and same money.

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 02/13/2006 09:54 PM
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I vote for the Opteron.
 02/13/2006 10:04 PM
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In a previous post, they compared a 3800+ x2 with an opteron 165 and the x2 won in gaming, so my vote goes to the x2 4400+

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Originally posted by: FrozenSteel In a previous post, they compared a 3800+ x2 with an opteron 165 and the x2 won in gaming, so my vote goes to the x2 4400+

You got that backwards, the Opteron wins in gaming.

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 02/13/2006 10:41 PM
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 02/13/2006 11:00 PM
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quote:

Originally posted by: fszone
I don't plan on overclocking it out of the box, maybe a couple months or maybe a year. But when I do OC it it will not be a whole lot.



After reading this I would recommend the x2 4400 not the Opteron 170. Why? Because as he stated "HE WILL NOT BE OCing" out of the box. His comment regarding OCing is he will only do it a little not a lot. So an x2 4400 will probably be better for him due to it's higher clock base speed.

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 02/13/2006 11:02 PM
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the Opteron 170 is less money and can boost the performance when he feels like it without any problem

when he feels like overclocking in a month or two, i guess he will just buy a new cpu

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 02/13/2006 11:03 PM
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The x2 4400 can be overclock, and his post specifically said he would only be overclocking it a little which the x2 4400 will do fine.



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 02/13/2006 11:05 PM
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i really don't get why people would only buy something for today..
like the ones that recommend buying single core because most games dont support dual core yet..
SO?
They will in a short while so get the dualie and yer set

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The x2 4400 can be overclock, and his post specifically said he would only be overclocking it a little which the x2 4400 will do fine.


the 170 can match it and surpass it for le$$

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 02/13/2006 11:06 PM
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You still fail to read the OP's want's and uses. If you want to recommend a 170 to someone who doesn't want to overclock a lot fine, but that is not what the OP was asking for.

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 02/13/2006 11:13 PM
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oh yeah.. you get $50 the OEM at monarch with this code 4XQT-KMDY3F
it still works.. $352.64

the X2 4400 is $458

over $100 difference for 200 mhz easily made up with 1 bios change

and the title of the thread is the Opteron 170 or X2 4400+ so it isn't exactly like i am off topic

so there :Þ

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 02/13/2006 11:15 PM
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 02/13/2006 11:17 PM
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I never said it was off topic. I just personally wouldn't buy from you. I think the terms of what a person wants and can use, now what "I" think they should have.

Based off what the OP said what would be best suited for him is an X2 4400.

Personally I'm the type that take badly to people selling me something that is completely different that what I was actually asking for.

What the OP did was list 2 CPU's then listed his usage/needs of the CPU and what he would "eventually" do with it.



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 02/13/2006 11:19 PM
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uh huh
thank you for agreeing

and how is recommending one of the 2 options presented completely different than what was asked?

don't be oxymoronic

and EVENTUALLY.. and taking into account TODAY'S needs.. the Opteron 170 fits BOTH categories for LE$$

and i wouldnt buy from you either. You would try and sell me the more expensive item everytime

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 02/13/2006 11:22 PM
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Kids, can't even read a post properly.

You recommended a CPU based off of your experiences overclocking. Not based off his usage of the chip.

You recommended a CPU telling him to do something against what he said he was going to do in the original post.

As for oxymoronic you should read the dictionary definition.

And I also never said you were offtopic, btw. That was simply you misinterperting a post.

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*cough everyone settle down cough*

I'd hate to see you guys if an intel fanboy joined these forums...

I never said I am not going to overclock, I am just sayng its not going to be on my immediate "todo" list when I purchase it.

And when I do NEED (Notice I said need, not want) to overclock I am not going to "push it to the extreme", just enough to run apps cleanly.

The X2 4400+ is dualcore isn't it? I thought thats what the "X2" means.
 02/13/2006 11:26 PM
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And you edit while I'm replying.

Actually the 170 doesn't fit both categories. It would require more extreme overclocking to reach the same speeds the x2 4400 would reach with minor overclocking.

To reach the speeds of the x2 4400 the 170 has to be overclocked. Then the OP would have to overclock again, pushing him past his comment regarding "But when I do OC it it will not be a whole lot."

This means you are recommending he purchase the value option of less speed for less price. Then overclock it less and have less speed again for less price.

He doesn't want to overclock a lot, already stated. By not overclocking alot if he is willing to spend the cash he will gain more from purchasing an x2 4400.

You also seem to have missed the comment that it will be months or even a year before he overclocks.

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Originally posted by: fszone


The X2 4400+ is dualcore isn't it? I thought thats what the "X2" means.



Yes, the x2 stands for the Dual Core AMD 64 Processors.

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