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 02/11/2006 07:11 PM
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I have started hearing alot about the new phase changing style of cooling. I was seriously thinking about this, the tests were done with an P4 Extreme Edition and had it overclocked to 5.01GHz and it was running at 0 degrees C. There is also another case which may be loud but it keeps the PC very cool under full loads it peaked at 10-18 degrees C. So what do you think about these options.

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I think they are really expensive.

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That is true but I would almost pay for it to keep my PC that cool.

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if you can afford it, go for it. personally I think subzero cooling is silly and really only for benchmark whores...

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Originally posted by: MrWicked1968
if you can afford it, go for it. personally I think subzero cooling is silly and really only for benchmark whores...


not to mention that some cores have a cold bug and wont work

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I suggest water if you want to keep things cool and quite. It will also save lots of money over Vapochill.

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 02/11/2006 10:39 PM
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i was pumped about the new OCZ unit until i foudn out it raises power bill $20/month.

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 02/12/2006 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by: TheReturnOfAZ
i was pumped about the new OCZ unit until i foudn out it raises power bill $20/month.


The OCZ doesnt. Mine does, if you run it 24/7. the OCZ would be an extra $5 a month is my guess if you ran it for an average 8 hours per day.
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Originally posted by: Unknown if you can afford it, go for it. personally I think subzero cooling is silly and really only for benchmark whores...

Heh. The parts for mine have cost me next to nothing.

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 02/12/2006 12:53 PM
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24/7 is all that matters to me
ill think about it more once its out
i really would like to make my own but i just cant
maybe when i get an apartment sometime soon

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Try a Google search for Computer AC Units. I remember seeing the other day a Air Conditioning unit that mounts into the front of your case. Might be a cheaper alternative to Vapochill yet better than water.
BTW: The 5.0Ghz test I seen they used liquid nitrogen and had the sucker at -245C and running 5.10Ghz.
The pic showed it running too!! Brrrrr!!!
Just imagine a FX60 chip with liq nitrogen!!! Drooling already!!
 02/14/2006 02:43 PM
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that AC unit is just a fan, theres nothing air conditioning about it.

so it really doesnt do much at all

and even if it was an AC unit that wouldnt make it better than water

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quote:

Originally posted by: MadMax42
Try a Google search for Computer AC Units. I remember seeing the other day a Air Conditioning unit that mounts into the front of your case. Might be a cheaper alternative to Vapochill yet better than water.
BTW: The 5.0Ghz test I seen they used liquid nitrogen and had the sucker at -245C and running 5.10Ghz.
The pic showed it running too!! Brrrrr!!!
Just imagine a FX60 chip with liq nitrogen!!! Drooling already!!


liquid nitrogen isn't an everyday 24/7 cooling solution. it's used primarily for record overclocks.

AZ, that AC unit is actually a peltier type cooler, like the ones found in electric coolers.

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oh thats right ive seen that one too

but the first one i remembered is just a radial kind of fan that fit in a 5.25" bay

even cooling intake by pelt isnt going to beat water though

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 02/15/2006 01:50 AM
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quote:

Originally posted by: MadMax42
Try a Google search for Computer AC Units. I remember seeing the other day a Air Conditioning unit that mounts into the front of your case. Might be a cheaper alternative to Vapochill yet better than water.
BTW: The 5.0Ghz test I seen they used liquid nitrogen and had the sucker at -245C and running 5.10Ghz.
The pic showed it running too!! Brrrrr!!!
Just imagine a FX60 chip with liq nitrogen!!! Drooling already!!


It was at -145c I think you mean. LN2 boils at -196 IIRC and you don't get it much colder than that.

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 02/15/2006 08:11 AM
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Is Vapochill that one that costs about £500.00 and is build to sit under a Lan-Li case?

I saw a review in a magazine on it. If only I were made of cash !

Childish I know, but the first thing I would do if I got one would be to stick the CPU heat sink on my forehead & see if I can give myself an ice cream headache !

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Is Vapochill that one that costs about £500.00 and is build to sit under a Lan-Li case?

I saw a review in a magazine on it. If only I were made of cash !

Childish I know, but the first thing I would do if I got one would be to stick the CPU heat sink on my forehead & see if I can give myself an ice cream headache !


You'd get much more than that, trust me

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quote:

Originally posted by: MadMax42
Try a Google search for Computer AC Units. I remember seeing the other day a Air Conditioning unit that mounts into the front of your case. Might be a cheaper alternative to Vapochill yet better than water.
BTW: The 5.0Ghz test I seen they used liquid nitrogen and had the sucker at -245C and running 5.10Ghz.
The pic showed it running too!! Brrrrr!!!
Just imagine a FX60 chip with liq nitrogen!!! Drooling already!!





First of all.. like Carlzor said already.. Liquid Nitrigen's boiling point is -195.8°C

if it was -245 I'm pretty sure the system wont be able to operate at those temps.. or if its even possible to achieve those temps with LN2.. -245°C is too close to absolute zero...


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[content edited] now you guys got me confused on if I should go with water or phase change! The only thing I dont like about phase is youll have 2 big insulated lines taking up the inside of the case rather than neatly running a couple of small flexible hoses. and adds xtra cost to the utility bill. I dont know about you guys but here in Colorado our utilities have gone up like 5 times in the past year and they are talking about raising rates even more. of course if it gave me 300MHZ more I would really consider; plus water can really never remain cooler than room temps unless you kept the water slightly chilled. but I dont really know what Im talking about either, lol

INFRNL; back to my homework on cooling(would b nice to break 3ghz mark!

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quote:

Originally posted by: INFRNL
[content edited] now you guys got me confused on if I should go with water or phase change! The only thing I dont like about phase is youll have 2 big insulated lines taking up the inside of the case rather than neatly running a couple of small flexible hoses. and adds xtra cost to the utility bill. I dont know about you guys but here in Colorado our utilities have gone up like 5 times in the past year and they are talking about raising rates even more. of course if it gave me 300MHZ more I would really consider; plus water can really never remain cooler than room temps unless you kept the water slightly chilled. but I dont really know what Im talking about either, lol

INFRNL; back to my homework on cooling(would b nice to break 3ghz mark!


Actually, you only have one insulated line inside the case:

That's what a vapochill looks like mounted.

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Its not advisable to run them 24/7 though is it?
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