 11/23/2005 04:38 PM
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10stagepipelineX10pipelines Senior Member

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It seems the BSOD and crashing curse that M$ is well known for is now part of the XBOX360 problem with some games. More info: Crashing xbox360's' ">http://games.slashdot.org/arti.../11/23/138200&from=rss
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 11/23/2005 04:52 PM
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Tamerz Elite

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Yes, there have been lots of people with problems so far. But other people are having no problems at all. Seems like there are just some bad ones out there. I don't think anyone knows the extent of it yet.
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 11/23/2005 04:56 PM
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10stagepipelineX10pipelines Senior Member

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All the more reason I will stay with a computer. I like to know that my money spent on hardware actually functions.
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 11/23/2005 05:10 PM
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someone124 Senior Member

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QUOTESeems like there are just some bad ones out there. I don't think anyone knows the extent of it yet. didn't this happen with the first XBOX? i'm sure MS will sort it out.
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 11/23/2005 05:16 PM
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Tamerz Elite

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QUOTE(someone124 @ Nov 23 2005, 02:10 PM)didn't this happen with the first XBOX? i'm sure MS will sort it out. [right][snapback]552533[/snapback][/right]
They may sort it out. But I'd be furious if I waited in line, payed a ton of money, then it doesn't work and I have to wait for a replacement.
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 11/23/2005 06:12 PM
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technic58 Minister of Spare Parts

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yea MS is already back ordered till...wat after january? there gonna have a hard time if they have to provide RMA's...
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 11/24/2005 09:07 AM
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Stix Linux Ninja

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No matter whats launched there is always problems. Just look at the ps2 and original xbox. I don't see why this is a suprise to anyone.
Only company that has the best track record for launches is Nintendo.
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 11/24/2005 10:14 AM
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Prelude76 Senior Member

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but wait! consoles are the future of gaming because it elminates all these incompatibilites and crashes found in PC gaming due to thousands of different configurations!
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(smack upside the head) - it's a M$ product, what did you all expect? stability? maybe by the time Xbox 3.11 is released, it will *finally* be all fixed.
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 11/24/2005 10:18 AM
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axy1985 Ninja Zombie Killer

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wow, that didn'twork very well..... /blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /> anywy, its MS, so they'll sort it out. they always do, one way or another.
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 11/24/2005 10:45 AM
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Stix Linux Ninja

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Well there service is awesome to get it fixed. They overnight ya a box and its a prepaid back to them overnight and then they get it back to you in 5 days or less
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 11/24/2005 11:01 AM
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Prelude76 Senior Member

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QUOTE(Stix @ Nov 24 2005, 07:45 AM)Well there service is awesome to get it fixed. They overnight ya a box and its a prepaid back to them overnight and then they get it back to you in 5 days or less [right][snapback]552987[/snapback][/right]
that's good service.
but 'awesome' service would be if they cross shipped a new xbox for you to use while they fix your $400 system. that's what ncix.com does to all components if you get their extra coverage option. if my 19" LCD screws up, they'll send me a new one first, then do arrangements to fix my defective one. /biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />
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 11/24/2005 12:15 PM
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MrWicked1968 Drunk Mouse Syndrome

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QUOTE(Prelude76 @ Nov 24 2005, 11:01 AM)that's what ncix.com does to all components if you get their extra coverage option. [right][snapback]552993[/snapback][/right]
that's a big "if" isn't it? and not to doubt you, but I couldn't find any mention of this on their site...and I really doubt they're going to allow a customer to have two xbox360s at the same time....trust is one thing, bad business is another...
also, is an xbox 360 considered a "component"?
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 11/24/2005 12:31 PM
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proudmoore2 Senior Member

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QUOTE(Stix @ Nov 24 2005, 06:07 AM)
Only company that has the best track record for launches is Nintendo. [right][snapback]552938[/snapback][/right]
they make great systems at long but there launcyh titles still suck(not to say that xbox's or ps2's were any better) but it has come out with some great games and it is a very simple sexy little machine, which is what the revolution hopes to become.
as far as these crashes go, i had heard that they were having problems with the initial xbox 360s. I thought it was just a rumor but...
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 11/24/2005 01:08 PM
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Prelude76 Senior Member

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QUOTE(MrWicked1968 @ Nov 24 2005, 09:15 AM)that's a big "if" isn't it? and not to doubt you, but I couldn't find any mention of this on their site...and I really doubt they're going to allow a customer to have two xbox360s at the same time....trust is one thing, bad business is another... [right][snapback]553032[/snapback][/right]
i dont know if all components have the option, but my 19" LCD i bought from them had extra coverage that included zero dead pixel guarantee, and cross-shipping RMA for 1 year. it's ok if you doubt me, i wont lose sleep over it. /wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />
i'm no fan of consoles, but even I assumed that at least it wouldnt crash. is there any ways to update these games that run off the DVD, or is it hardware fault thats causing these crashes? i'm starting to think this console was rushed a bit too quickly just to cash in on xmas sales.
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 11/24/2005 01:14 PM
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bvchurch Senior Member

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QUOTE(Stix @ Nov 24 2005, 06:07 AM)No matter whats launched there is always problems. Just look at the ps2 and original xbox. I don't see why this is a suprise to anyone.
Only company that has the best track record for launches is Nintendo. [right][snapback]552938[/snapback][/right]
Stix is the only person to hit the nail on the head here. There have always been problems with first releases of pretty much everything. PS2 died on our family oh about 10 days out of warranty. Xbox 1 had some problems with some hard ware. Athlon 64 first edition motherboards werent exactly the best, nor were the chipsets.
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 11/24/2005 03:22 PM
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Prelude76 Senior Member

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excuse my ignorance (once again, console history is not my forte) but isn't faulty hard drives in Xbox1 and dead PS2 units after 1 year warranty a bit differnt then these software glitches found in Xbox360?
thats what i meant by 'i dont think i've seen this before', software glitches in a console when ALL consoles are supposedly designed around one format, thereby avoiding DLL H e l l, 1,000s of PC components, driver versions, etc.., that is plaguing PC games these days. after all, even game developers (such as Civ4 developers) publicly comment about how console design is much easier, since they can make it work on all systems the same, yet now we are seeing crashes in Xbox360 games. i'm sorry, but that's unheard of in console world. so is it sloppy coding by developers, or hardware issues, and if its the software that needs to be 'patched' like all pc games these days, how will that be done, especially on the core model with no hard drive?
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 11/24/2005 03:39 PM
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shant Senior Member

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... thats the reason why i dont like yo buy things when they come out ... i like to wait that way it's fixed after a wile ....
just like window XP .... at first people use to call it windows xtra problem lol but it was true until the updates and all that stuff ... hey wait a minute i forgot to do my updates ! doh! be back later on ! lol /laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />
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 11/24/2005 04:21 PM
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Megadeth Senior Member

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I stick with PC, I have no reason to go to consoles right now.
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 11/24/2005 05:05 PM
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O'Neil Senior Member

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Nintendo's are solid. I still have the first nintendo that ever came out those things are hard too break i must of droped it like 50 times it still works lol. Then again the Diskettes look like Pancakes but heh
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