 10/08/2003 03:59 PM
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Buzzz1000 Junior Member
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[SIZE=7]OK heres the deal, Im looking to build my first system using the 3200+ "64 bit "and am not sure if it has been on the market long enough or not. I think the speed would be great but, Im worried about games and software being compatible with this 64 bit processor. I've read some articles that made me feel that if I used this processors, I would basically be a guinea pig, being that its new on the market. I mainly use my computer for gaming such as America's Army , Gamespy , Battlefield 1942 , etc. So I guess my question is that for all you out there using this chip, is it worth it? Would I run into compatibility problems? Please advise me on this issue,Im getting ready to buy the components. Thanks
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10/08/2003 04:09 PM
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Dave Graham Senior Member
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Compatibility is not an issue with today's games since all 32-bit work is basically done with a re-vamped Athlon core. I don't know who's been blowing smoke, but there are no issues with this processor and game compatibility. it is worth the "leap". cheers, dave
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10/08/2003 04:22 PM
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YES! no problems. games will run like never before.
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10/08/2003 05:12 PM
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ZapWizard Senior Member
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At the AMD Athlon 64 Launch even I got to play a 64-bit version of America's Army. (It may already be released) At home I run a nVidia FX 5600, Corsair XMS Cas2, and a Athlon XP 3200+ (400mhz) But after playing America's Army in 64-bit, my home system now seems pretty carn slow.
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10/08/2003 05:14 PM
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Ruzhyo Junior Member
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Yep, the A64 is actually the king of compatibility. Runs all of the games of the past, and with a 64bit operating system, runs all of the games of the future too! Its really unbeatable.
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10/08/2003 08:35 PM
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riotcity76 Member
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QUOTE (ZapWizard @ Oct 8 2003, 01:12 PM)At the AMD Athlon 64 Launch even I got to play a 64-bit version of America's Army.
(It may already be released)
At home I run a nVidia FX 5600, Corsair XMS Cas2, and a Athlon XP 3200+ (400mhz)
But after playing America's Army in 64-bit, my home system now seems pretty carn slow.
What OS were you using? Do you need a 64-bit OS to run a 64-bit game or no?
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10/09/2003 01:52 AM
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Greyhound Senior Member
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QUOTE Do you need a 64-bit OS to run a 64-bit game or no?
yes, if you want to run 64-bit games/applications, you will need a 64-bit O/S.
A 64-bit O/S will allow you to run 32-bit games/applications with NO loss of performance aswell
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10/09/2003 03:43 AM
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sandorski Member
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The only reason to be concened with Athlon 64 right now is the immaturity of current chipsets/moherboards. Other than that(can be a major problem, but not necessarily) there is little risk of "incompatibility".
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10/09/2003 05:15 AM
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Dagalidis Senior Member
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A64 is the king of compability right now...
The only problem is that many mobos with nForce3 Chipset had stability problems..
So if you want to buy right now ....... just take a VIA Chipset based mobo......
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10/09/2003 05:36 AM
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Peetabix Junior Member
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I've heard of Epic running a 64 bit version of Unreal tourney 2 and theres somerthing like a 20% performance boost.
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10/09/2003 06:02 AM
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Kiddy Junior Member
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Yes, definetly. ATM it's the best of the best (except an 8-Way Opteron with 8 GB of RAM and a Raddy 9800XT)
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10/09/2003 09:41 PM
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Ardrid Heavy Wizardry
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There's no doubt in my mind that you should go with an Athlon 64. From what I've read around the web, there haven't been any major compatibility problems at all, save for some issues with the nForce3. And as Dave mentioned, compatibility with today's software is not an issue at all as the Athlon 64 runs 32-bit code flawlessly. And you'll be prepared when Microsoft finally drops Windows XP 64. So yes, pick up an Athlon 64
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10/10/2003 05:54 PM
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Incitatus Junior Member
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I just build my first 'home-made' system with a MSI k8t neo and athlon 64. Except for a booting problem (explained in the troubleshooting section) everything went smoothly.
It's been running all day now I've been running benchmarks, games, movies and some serious raytrace rendering, and as far as I can tell it's ROCK solid. Not one program has crashed or skipped a frame. *thumbes up*
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10/10/2003 09:29 PM
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Ardrid Heavy Wizardry
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Proof in the pudding right there
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10/10/2003 09:31 PM
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riotcity76 Member
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Judging from the replies, compatability is not an issue. However, if you are still unsure, you might want to consider holding off for the 939 pin Athlon 64.
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10/10/2003 10:14 PM
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Dave Graham Senior Member
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the 64-bit version of America's Army supposedly will ship with a self-contained OS and game on a bootable CD (utilizing a distro of linux compiled for x86-64) cheers, dave
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10/10/2003 11:15 PM
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BEENTHERE Senior Member
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For the record the A64/FX runs ALL X86 apps in 32-bit just the same as any other Athlon or X86 based CPU does. AND additionally on a 64-bit O/S the A64/FX will run both 32-bit and 64-bit apps natively and concurrently. So there is absolutely no reason in the World to not buy an A64/FX if you're ready for a new system. And despite some well intentioned comments, there simply is not any issues with one brand of chipset over another on current A64/FX Mobos. If it's AMD approved it works properly - period. AMD and the Mobo mfgs. spent a Helleva lot of time validating the chipsets before the Mobos were ever released to production.
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10/11/2003 12:06 AM
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ZapWizard Senior Member
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QUOTE (BEENTHERE @ Oct 10 2003, 07:15 PM) If it's AMD approved it works properly - period. AMD and the Mobo mfgs. spent a Helleva lot of time validating the chipsets before the Mobos were ever released to production. I know this stuff personaly. Every AMD recommended motherboard is tested to an almost ridiculous amount of testing. That means if it's AMD approved then it will be stable. The mis-conception that some people associate with the nForce3 150 is that because they didn't use all 16 HT links, means it will be less stable. Not true. It simply means there will be less overall CPU to motherboard bandwidth. (Normaly 6.4GB/s) With the memory controller on board this should not effect your overall system performance.
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