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 10/10/2003 12:05 AM
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Stealthy C
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How risky is buying an OEM chip?

I was thinking about an OEM 64 / Zalman 7000cu setup.

I know the waranty is not as long...but would you take a chance on it?

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 10/10/2003 12:33 AM
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It's not risky at all provided you pick out a good HSF, which it looks like you have. They're cheaper anyway. They lack a longer warranty and HSF.

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It would depend on how much you save. Sometimes it's only a couple bucks. I figure if the chip is bad your going to know within a year though.
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Depending on your vendor, it may lack any warranty.

OEM and Retail chips come of the same line. However, Retail chips go one direction to be individually packaged with an AMD heatsink and 3 yr. warranty direct from AMD. Since they are individually packaged, they are protected from improper handling, improper storage, etc.

OEM parts on the other hand are packed in trays of 10, 5 trays to a box usually. They are then boxed up and sent to distributors. To be sold in smaller quantities, they need to be taken out of the protective packaging from AMD and separated out. Who knows how many hands have touched them before being sold to an end consumer. Being exposed, they are subject to improper handling, storage, etc.

Since they don't come directly from AMD to your hands, AMD will not give you any warranty on it.

Therefore, the biggest risk about purchasing OEM units are the warranty you get from your vendor. There are some vendors that will not touch it once you take ownership, others provide a decent warranty (up to a year sometimes). If they feed you some line of bull, like 1 yr manufacturer warranty, don't believe them. AMD's own warranty policy clearly states they DO NOT provide any warranty on OEM parts. I noticed they have provided some links in other posts that state this so don't buy that B.S. if a reseller tells you it has a 1 year warranty from AMD because that is an outright lie.

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Sorry, I just know some people that got burned that way bad.


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Thanks for the replys.

I guess it would be better and smarter to get retail.

But OEM and Zalmon come out to the same price as Retail.

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True, and if you get a good warranty from a good vendor you know you can trust and will back you if you have any problems, then OEM is fine.

If not, then retail might be the better choice. At least you know that if you do have a problem, AMD is there to back the product up. Just be sure that you use the heatsink they provide, because they won't warranty it if you use a 3rd party solution.

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it really depends on what you're doing with the chip...warranty is one thing but if you want a better or more silent cooling solution, the boxed HSF is pretty useless IMHO.
and of course, if you're goin to OC it, you will be voiding the warranty anyways...hehe

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The HS/Fan combo they gave me with my FX-51 is LOUD! I figure the retail box would have the same. I just have a hard time paying $40+ for one when I already have one that works well.
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So, the retail HS/fan is alot louder compared to a Zalmon?

And I plan on buying from newegg.


....and I plan on not overclocking it...well at least for a good while.

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I don't know if the Athlon 64's standard HSF is noticeably higher than a Zalman HSF. I know from personal experience that I can't hear the HSF on my 2500+ at all, but that HSF would differ from the A64's, so there might be a noticeable difference between the two.

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Retail A64 3200+ is out of stock in England....
Lets hope when i receive mine from overclockers.co.uk the newer steppings will give me more OC than OEM......

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OEM CPU's from Newegg come with a 30-day Warrenty policy. For $24 you have the option to extend that to 1-Year, but you would be better off buying it retail in that case.

AccuPC (a respected reseller w/ a 9.27 Lifetime Reseller Rating' ">http://www.resellerratings.com/seller4501.html) sells the AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Retail (AccuPC sells only Retail CPU's) for $432 shipped. ZipZoomFly (formerly GoogleGear) sells it for $442. And Newegg sells it for rather high $458 (with price drops likely once they return in-stock on 10/13).

I would say to go ahead and purchase the Retail-AMD Athlon 64 3200+ from AccuPC for $432. Then purchase the Zalman HSF you want (CNPS-7000A-CU or CNPS-7000A-AlCu? AlCu is much lighter), which costs about $40. Then you will have the Heatsink/Fan you want, as well as AMD's 3-Year manufacturer warrenty and a Retail-HSF to use for whatever. Total cost ~$472 compared to ~$450 for OEM+Zalman.
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