QUOTE (RoninCS @ Mar 16 2004, 04:09 PM) Your temps are perfectly fine. I wouldn't worry about a 50C under load temp, really.
i know there nothing to worry about, but what im worrying about is why is the temps so high with in total 9 fans in the case and 4 of them over the cpu???

OMG! It looks like I win so far! Mine are 49-50 Idle and 57-59 load! The system seems very stable though- ran Prime and Seti for 6+ hours. Also, played Call of Duty for about 5 hours straight! Been trying to figure out why mine are so high?

http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=10445' ">http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=10445

Could it be my motherboard? Anyone else using a KV8-MAX3? I have heard Abits are known to be high by a couple of degrees but hey, not that much!



AMD 64 3200+ (Silentboost K8 or stock HSF)
Abit KV8-MAX3
Cooler Master ATC-201 AL Case (2 front fans blowing in, 2 fans, 1 rear and one on top sucking out)
Enermax Coolergiant EG485P (480W)
2x512 Corsair PC4000
Radeon 9800 Pro
150 gb SATA
2 80 gb IDE
8x teac DVD burner

My CPU runs at 29 degrees Celsius doing almost nothing and 34 degrees Celsius while working its hardest in AquaMark3. I am using the CPU Fan that came with the CPU Retail (A64 3000+), an Antec 120mm case fan in an Antec Sonata PC Case. I am using Asus probe to test my temperature (I have an Asus K8V Deluxe Mobo).

CASE SIZE plays a large role in determining the CPU temperatures too. If you have a decent airflow going through a case, then you are likely to have a good temperature.

Other factors include,

Mobo (thermal sensor locations)
Cooler (speed and amount of airflow and if it's Cu/Al/or mixed)
Thermal paste application.
Temperature of room in which PC resides.
If you overclocking or not


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Mos,

KV8-Max3 user here, and my temps are in the same ranges as yours. And, what I can gather from the Abit boards, that the board reports higher than normal. Anywhere from 10-15C higher, or so it seems.

Using my ultra-accurate, professional, high cost temperature probs (I feel the heatsink), it doesnt seem hot at all.

So, after beating it up (not literally) running this game, that benchmark, etc. I have yet to get any instability.


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QUOTE (infiltrator @ Mar 17 2004, 02:16 PM) CASE SIZE plays a large role in determining the CPU temperatures too.
ahhaha. my case is the size of 2 normal towers and the cpu is still hot.

My 3200+ is under full load 24/7 with CPU temps running between 41 and 44C. It is also slightly overclocked, with sys bus set at 220. The only problems I've experienced have, according to the Microsoft crash report, is a problem with a device drv. which I'm almost certain is the drv. for the nvidia GEFORCE card which I intend to replace.

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QUOTE (Fraggy @ Mar 17 2004, 09:08 AM) Using my ultra-accurate, professional, high cost temperature probs (I feel the heatsink), it doesnt seem hot at all.


Heh, I have the same tool! Thanks Fraggy! Any more KV8-Max3 users

QUOTE (BlaZe @ Mar 16 2004, 03:59 PM) well everytime we get visitors here they always say its soooooooo hot in here. the house is very hot. its so hot you can walk around in your bare chest. im just wearing a vest now and i feel a bit hot. u think this has anything to do with it?

it shoudnt really wiv da amount of cooling i got in dat dam case.
yes ambient air temperature does make a huge difference in how efficient your cooling is. any air cooled heatsink will only cool to the ambient temperature at the very very best. so if your ambient temp is 35deg then the best temp you will see on your hsf is ~35deg.

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Athlon64 3200+

Idle about 23-24 C
Full Load no more than 31 C

Temperature in the house is 74 degrees

System has 4 fans & the stock HS & Fan

I'd have to say that AMD has come a long way in the way their processors put out heat.

My old Athon 850 runs @ 'bout 42-45 C and that's with 4 high speed case fans, and a huge HS & high speed 80mm Fan.

My XP2500+ Barton core runs @ 35 C Idle & 41 C full load

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500watt Powersupply
18.1" LCD Display
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QUOTE (moseng @ Mar 16 2004, 05:00 PM)OMG! It looks like I win so far! Mine are 49-50 Idle and 57-59 load! The system seems very stable though- ran Prime and Seti...


I get your exact same temps 49-59. Bear in mind I am in Florida with the temp right now at a humid 82F in the room and I just turned on the AC, which should help dramatically. I'm using a Shuttle PCX case with the heatpipes/ICE and the thermal paste that came with.

AMD 64 3200+
Shuttle XPC SN85G4 w/FN85 Mainboard
Radeon 9200 Pro
120 gb SATA

Wow, I have an athlonXP3200+ and it's hotter than all yours... If I just get a bigger heatsink and fan will it make a big difference?

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It'll probably make some difference. However, if your machine is stable, and the noise it makes doesn't bother you there's not much of a point in doing so. Also, the Athlon64 has a few features which allow it to run cooler than an AthlonXP of the same speed would, so it's not that surprising really that your temps would be a bit higher.

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Ah, I see. Well, mine isn't even running stable yet, so I guess I should take care of that first

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QUOTE (BlaZe @ Mar 17 2004, 11:35 PM) ahhaha. my case is the size of 2 normal towers and the cpu is still hot.
Size of two normal towers? You actually get something that big? (pics?) My case is the Lian Li PC71 (which is one of the bigger ones I've seen to date) and it's made out of Aluminium (makes it cooler). I was going under the assumption that when your case is bigger there is more airflow between the components - which is the case in mine (excuse the punn) - Perhaps yours is too big for you to even consider Airflow

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QUOTE (infiltrator @ Mar 17 2004, 04:16 PM) CASE SIZE plays a large role in determining the CPU temperatures too. If you have a decent airflow going through a case, then you are likely to have a good temperature.

Other factors include,

Mobo (thermal sensor locations)
Cooler (speed and amount of airflow and if it's Cu/Al/or mixed)
Thermal paste application.
Temperature of room in which PC resides.
If you overclocking or not
Case temperature plays a large part in the processors temps, but I would say size does'nt really have anything to do with it. A small case with good airflow will be cooler then a large case with weak airflow..

I've seen load temps change by 10 degreese on the same motherboard just by updating the bios (new temp gauge calibration?), and by about the same by changing the motherboard. This would make me assume that having the same processor temperature in two diferant systems could be reported with even 15 degreese diferance. (one would read 40, the other 55 and in reality they are running at the same temp)

One thing you can be sure of though, if your case temps are around 30 and your processor reports around 40 the motherboard is not reporting on-die temps.

The air inside a smaller case will heat up faster. Stopping that from happening requires the air to be removed at a faster rate. The air inside a bigger case will heat up more slowly.

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Possibly if you are thinking of the small case being something like a shuttle ect. If you look at a medium size case with decent ventilation it will allways run cooler then a large one without as good ventilation.

As an example, I have an antec 1040 case with 2 80mm fans sucking air out in the back. I built a computer for a friend using the antec sonata that is alot smaller. It only has one silent 120mm fan sucking the air out. The sonata runs cooler even though it's smaller, the powersupply sucks out less air then mine did ect. ect.

I'd say a rule of thumb would rather be to try to find a case with well designed air-flow. In large cases the air can get trapped in corners, and in the smallest possible cases there might not be enough fans to even move the air around. (and it could be there is no room for airflow) Generally the size will hardly affect the temperatures if your air-flow is in condition.

after running my new pc for a week to make sure nothing breaks down, decided to load up some folding.

temperature in the house is about 70 degrees F. at no load cpu sits around 31c.

started folding and it jumped up to 47c, and after 2 hours it has settled down to 42c case temp is 35c, not too shabby for only having 1 intake fan and 1 exhaust fan other than the psu fans.

using the Zalman cpu hsf, the all copper one, very quiet and lots of air flow from it.



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Abit KV8 Max3
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These darn Abit boards report high temps. My Heat sink is warm but not hot to the touch yet my temps are high.

Idle 50c
Full load 58c