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Created On: 07/21/2004 11:13 PM
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 07/21/2004 11:13 PM
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peenuts220
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Im posting this to let all know that when purchasing an amd 64 3000+ retail you will find two different numbers.

ADA3000BOX is the clawhammer

ADA3000AXBOX is the newcastle cg revision because all newcastles are CG

There is no real difference between these processors, the clawhammer has a 1mb cache but half of it is disabled and no there is no way to enable it. The newcastle has just a 512kb cache, both run at the same clockspeed. Some have said that the newcastle runs slightly faster but there is no real difference, its not noticable. Just posting to help clear things up. Hope it helps out you future amd 64 consumers.

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 07/21/2004 11:29 PM
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I'd like to add that it's the same for the 3200+. Newcastle core has 512 kb L2 cache but runs at 2.2Ghz, Clawhammer core has 1 MB L2 cache but runs at 2.0 Ghz. Both perform approximately the same, the Newcastle benefitting from the extra 200 Mhz clock speed and the Clawhammer benefitting from the extra cache. Once OC'd, the Clawhammer's cache comes into good use, because as the clock speed of a Clawhammer core CPU is raised, the better effect the cache has. The Newcastle may run a tiny bit faster at standard speeds, but the difference will most likely go un-noticed in everyday tasks, and there will be minimal differences in benchmarks.

It's worth noting here that the CG revision CPU's are better thatn the old C0 models. The CG features a better, revised memory controller and doesn't have a problem running more than 2 sticks of RAM @ DDR 400. Your mainboard must support this, of course, but for many of us this will be a dead feature, as many of us are running one or two sticks of DDR400, rarely 3. It's worth mentioning that the CG revision CPU's overclock better than C0.

CG revision CPU's are identified by their OPN -- Ordering Part Number.

For the Clawhammer CG, the top line of info on the CPU heatspreader ends in "AR". For C0 stepping models, this number end in "AP".

The number 5 before the last two letters means it's a 1 MB L2 cache CPU, and 4 means it's a 512KB CPU. Example: "5AR" means it's a 1 MB cache CG revision Clawhammer.

 07/22/2004 10:13 PM
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hey ninja is that ballistix memory any good?

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eVGA 6600GT PCIe @ 561/1070 | Hitachi Deskstar 160 gig SATA II
Thermaltake Tsunami | Epower Puma II
Westinghouse 17" widescreen lcd
Macbook (black) 2.0ghz core duo, 1 gig ram, 80 gig hd, superdrive
 07/22/2004 10:24 PM
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From what I've heard so far the Ballistix is great Peenuts (still laughing at your name, btw!. This stuff is brand new though, so I'm taking a small risk cause there's no reviews, but plenty of people on various forums are trying it out and having nice results.

Good price -- approx £50 cheaper per 512MB stick than the OCZ I had on my shopping list for the last few months. I just couldn't afford the OCZ 3700EB (way too many bills arrived at once) but I was saving for it anyway, then the Ballistix came along and I was very happy to hear about it. I'll let you know how it goes next weekend, I should have my new machine ready by then *fingers crossed that I don't get any problems*.

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