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Topic Title: Clarification on FX-72/74 package
Topic Summary: How many processors in the box?
Created On: 05/08/2007 05:33 AM
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 05/08/2007 05:33 AM
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@meno
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I would like to get a clarification from someone regarding the FX-72 and 74 packages.

Say if i purchased this processor "ADAFX72DIBOX", how many processors will actually be included in the retail pack itself? Will it be in a single chip package or a bundle or 2 chips to setup a 4x4 straight?
 05/08/2007 10:23 AM
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1 CPU + 1 Fan per retail box.

The object was to have you purchase 2 processors @ $xxx each, which at the time would have compared to the pricing of a single Intel Quad Core Chip.

AMD 4x4 FX-72: $610 (2x 2.8GHz x 2x 2.8GHz)
AMD 4x4 FX-74: $850 (2x 3.0GHz x 2x 3.0GHz)

My prices are based off Newegg's current price list and I have combined the total cost of making the "4x4" system (2 Processors).

Requires Socket F (1207) Motherboard


For price comparison:

Intel Q6600 Quad Core: $535 (4x 2.40GHz)
Intel Q6700 Quad Core: $970 (4x 2.66GHz)


Unless there is a burning need to build a new system I would surely wait for the new processors from AMD to come out, they should be a huge improvement (hopefully to the point of quieting Intel down and making them have to play catch up to have the best toy on the block again).......I love the smell of competition in the morning lol

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AMD 4400+ 64x2@2.2GHz, ZALMAN CNPS9500 HS with 92MM Fan, AS5
Idle: 95F Load: 114F (35-46c)
Asus A8N-E (Bios Rev. 1013)
2GB (4x512) Patriot DDR400 (PC3200) 2-3-2-5 T2
WD Raptor 74Gig SATA HD 10kRPM, Windows XP Pro (SP2)
eVGA 8800GTS AC3 Edition (580/1700), Plextor 716-SA (SATA) DVD Burner
Thermaltake Armor Full Tower (2) 120mm Fans, Antec NEO Power 480W PS

Edited: 05/08/2007 at 10:33 AM by gameday22
 05/08/2007 10:45 AM
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I'm sorry, I know this is sort of out of place but I cannot even find a place to make a brand new post on the correct forum so I thought I might reply to this. I'm about to upgrade my computer (i have a 3200+ 64). as everyone already knows, its old, so anything of today will be a big upgrade to say the least. but I'm curious, for top end gaming, is it even necessary to wait for the quad core that AMD is cooking up or might it be a better value to just go for say an x2 5600? any thoughts you might have would be great, thanks
 05/08/2007 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by: semaj1919

I'm sorry, I know this is sort of out of place but I cannot even find a place to make a brand new post on the correct forum so I thought I might reply to this. I'm about to upgrade my computer (i have a 3200+ 64). as everyone already knows, its old, so anything of today will be a big upgrade to say the least. but I'm curious, for top end gaming, is it even necessary to wait for the quad core that AMD is cooking up or might it be a better value to just go for say an x2 5600? any thoughts you might have would be great, thanks




The 5600+ AM2 is a great processor for the $ and you would not be disappointed by the performance. It is only $185 on Newegg (it might be less somewhere else but they provide great customer service). Do you need a Quad Core: For most people the answer is simply no. I know when I play a game, the only other thing that might be running on the computer is iTunes and maybe Firefox with a few web pages.

If you build a system based around that processor you will be very happy. As with any build make sure to research the parts you are buying and stick to the well known brands.

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AMD 4400+ 64x2@2.2GHz, ZALMAN CNPS9500 HS with 92MM Fan, AS5
Idle: 95F Load: 114F (35-46c)
Asus A8N-E (Bios Rev. 1013)
2GB (4x512) Patriot DDR400 (PC3200) 2-3-2-5 T2
WD Raptor 74Gig SATA HD 10kRPM, Windows XP Pro (SP2)
eVGA 8800GTS AC3 Edition (580/1700), Plextor 716-SA (SATA) DVD Burner
Thermaltake Armor Full Tower (2) 120mm Fans, Antec NEO Power 480W PS

Edited: 05/08/2007 at 11:31 AM by gameday22
 05/08/2007 03:06 PM
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Thanx for the info mate.
Was wondering whether to get the FX to run 4x4 or wait for the Agena.
I think for the time being the better choice would be waiting a little longer as the price for 2 units of FX is a little too pricey IMHO.
 05/08/2007 04:40 PM
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thanks for your opinion, I think I will be going with the 5600, i assume there is a guide to overclocking somewhere on this forum, so I'm not going to plague the forums w/ foolish questions before I do a search. one thing i am curious about is processor fans, is its ok to use what AMD provides or should I be looking at a better one if i plan to overclock?
 05/11/2007 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by: @meno

Thanx for the info mate.

Was wondering whether to get the FX to run 4x4 or wait for the Agena.

I think for the time being the better choice would be waiting a little longer as the price for 2 units of FX is a little too pricey IMHO.


At the time I put this pc together (Feb), Intel's best was over $1300 and the 74,s just under $500 each at newegg, since it takes 2, to create the quad for AMD.. The thought of the Intel crashing..and waiting on replacement, compared to a 74 crashing..and only having to wait for 1 cpu..and the pc is still usable. Not only the fact of cost..if it were to be my fault. Those were my deciding factors.
And the 4x4 name...should actually be 2coresx2cores=4.
The 74's supposedly will be able to run with more cpu's then 2, together eventually..I think a MB needs to be designed.
The Intel will OC much higher....but I don't see this system needs any oc'ing (4x3000mhz is plenty).
It will run several apps/games at one time, I've even ran 3dmark06 full test, while 4 games were launched and talking on Ventrilo over the net (had to minimize all during bench mark).
I knew there would be issues starting off with Vista 64 bit...but things have been coming together very nicely for it.
I'm looking forward to the next cpu's offered from AMD.

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ASUS L1N64-SLI 680a WS Dual Socket L, 2x AMD Athlon 64 FX-74, 2x ASUS EN8800GTX/DDR3/768M (SLI),
2x WD 150GB Raptors 10000rpm-Raid0, 4gig Corsair DDR2@800mhz-PC6400, Dell 30in (2560x1600),
Enermax Galaxy 1000W, ThermalTake Armour Extreme, Vista Ultimate-64bit OS...
TrackIR:4 Pro
 05/13/2007 03:18 AM
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hey big bear, I was looking at your computer specs. thats some machine you got there, haha. I was curious, what do you use that for, and what needs that much raw power?
 05/13/2007 05:59 AM
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Well actually, building gaming pc's is a hobby for me. When Vista was released, I wanted to put something BIG together for myself to enjoy for a few years.
Thinking I may eventually install quad video....and 2 Raid setups for dual booting (6 hd's per OS) is why I went ahead and got the 1000w. It is massive.... but when idle, or set for "balanced power" consumption, it runs/sounds like any other pc, and sleep mode actually works properly.... you can not even tell it's on..no lights on the tower. And Windows updates will even restart it while asleep, if needed.
I may eventually make a gaming server out of it... when a MB is released to run more than 2 cpu's.

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ASUS L1N64-SLI 680a WS Dual Socket L, 2x AMD Athlon 64 FX-74, 2x ASUS EN8800GTX/DDR3/768M (SLI),
2x WD 150GB Raptors 10000rpm-Raid0, 4gig Corsair DDR2@800mhz-PC6400, Dell 30in (2560x1600),
Enermax Galaxy 1000W, ThermalTake Armour Extreme, Vista Ultimate-64bit OS...
TrackIR:4 Pro
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