 10/08/2003 01:18 AM
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Pro Kid Senior Member
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I know that this is gonna be the one thats gonna have the non ECC ram. That was a big relief. But what I would really like to know about the proc is if its going to be using the current .13 SOI process or .09 SOI process. Or is .09 coming later this year. I've also heard that. As well as the process for the 939, as for the HyperTransport, they say it runs double the P4C, I know it maxes at 1.6GBps now is that constant or what. Thanks in advance people.[COLOR=green]
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10/08/2003 01:40 AM
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The Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX (San Diego) will use 0.09µ SOI process and will be released Q1 2004, AFAIK. The Hyper-Transport I/O-link operates at up to 1.6GHz full duplex(16-bits wide) - its bandwidth is 3.2GB/s in each direction, so you'll get 6.4GB/s total bandwidth. go here' ">http://www.amd.com/us-en/Proce...85_9488%5E9494,00.html
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10/08/2003 01:53 AM
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Brian Member
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will the price stay at the current US$700? i can afford 500 for a proc at most
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10/08/2003 02:11 AM
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Greyhound Senior Member
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yea, i think it will stay at 700 bux until a faster A64 FX is out.
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10/08/2003 02:13 AM
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Brian Member
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i mean the 939 procs
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10/08/2003 02:27 AM
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Greyhound Senior Member
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oops, sorry
hmmm...hard to tell...my guess would be around 700 +/- a hundred bux maybe...
i guess it depends on a lot of factors...availability, performance compared to the current A64 FX and whether the competition will come up with something nasty next year...
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10/08/2003 02:29 AM
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Brian Member
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yeah, i just hope they'll be at $400, that'll be the sweet spot for me
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10/08/2003 03:37 AM
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Dagalidis Senior Member
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939 FX will be my next Setup .....
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10/08/2003 03:42 AM
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Brian Member
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QUOTE (Dagalidis @ Oct 8 2003, 03:37 PM) 939 FX will be my next Setup ..... it'll probably be mine too add that with DDR-2 and and NV40/R420, it'll be great
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10/08/2003 03:43 AM
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can i have your *old* A64 setup when you get a Socket 939 mobo/cpu?
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10/08/2003 03:44 AM
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QUOTE (Hellraiser @ Oct 8 2003, 03:43 PM) can i have your *old* A64 setup when you get a Socket 939 mobo/cpu? old? you mean my 1700@2.33GHz?
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10/08/2003 03:48 AM
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Money money money.....
I Need a Loan
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10/08/2003 03:50 AM
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QUOTE (Dagalidis @ Oct 8 2003, 03:48 PM) Money money money..... I Need a Loan so do i...... i'm 16, in grade 10(called form 4 here in malaysia)
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10/08/2003 05:34 AM
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BTW Christmas Day is not so FAR
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10/08/2003 06:59 AM
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QUOTE (Hellraiser @ Oct 7 2003, 10:27 PM) oops, sorry hmmm...hard to tell...my guess would be around 700 +/- a hundred bux maybe... i guess it depends on a lot of factors...availability, performance compared to the current A64 FX and whether the competition will come up with something nasty next year... depending on yield, i think we could easily see the FX depreciate into the mid to low 600's for launch prices. Right now, yields aren't as good as they will be further into the process. Cheers, dave
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10/08/2003 10:47 AM
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Brian Member
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yeah, SOI seems like the reason why the A64 was delayed i just hope they can get 0.09 micron with SOI with little probs
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10/08/2003 11:15 AM
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As far as I know, the price might be lower, becouse with the 0.09u process AMD can make more CPUs from a single (I really hope 300mm ) slice... Since all the Hammers have a HUGE core, 0.09u process could help reduce the costs. Anyway, 4 layer boards used by the 939 pin A64 FX WILL BE cheaper!
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10/09/2003 09:21 PM
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I would imagine the price on the FXs would drop a little once the .09 die shrink takes place. It'll allow AMD's yields to increase while also decreasing manufacturing costs. If AMD also decides to move to 300mm wafers, that will increase yields further. I don't think we'll see any FXs launched in the $400-500, but they should be significantly cheaper than the current FXs at $700+.
Hellraiser, as far as I know, the Athlon 64 FX will be transitioning to the .09 shrink via the Athens core. I don't see AMD using the San Diego core because that core is the next iteration of the Athlon 64. The Athlon 64 FX is, after all, nothing more than an Opteron at this point. So it fits that it'll be using the next Opteron core. Either that or AMD will make a new core in order to differentiate the two by more than just pin count
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10/10/2003 07:43 AM
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Both Athens and San Diego will be 0.09µ SOI for sure - just look at the roadmap' ">http://www.amd.com/us-en/Proce.../0,,30_118_608,00.html
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10/10/2003 01:58 PM
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You are correct about that. I was simply differentiating the positioning of the cores. Athens will be a .09 micron Opteron/Athlon 64 FX core and San Diego will be a .09 micron Athlon 64 core.
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