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 10/08/2003 01:18 AM
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I know that this is gonna be the one thats gonna have the non ECC ram. That was a big relief. But what I would really like to know about the proc is if its going to be using the current .13 SOI process or .09 SOI process. Or is .09 coming later this year. I've also heard that. As well as the process for the 939, as for the HyperTransport, they say it runs double the P4C, I know it maxes at 1.6GBps now is that constant or what. Thanks in advance people.[COLOR=green]

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The Socket 939 Athlon 64 FX (San Diego) will use 0.09µ SOI process and will be released Q1 2004, AFAIK.

The Hyper-Transport I/O-link operates at up to 1.6GHz full duplex(16-bits wide) - its bandwidth is 3.2GB/s in each direction, so you'll get 6.4GB/s total bandwidth.
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will the price stay at the current US$700?
i can afford 500 for a proc at most

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yea, i think it will stay at 700 bux until a faster A64 FX is out.

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 10/08/2003 02:13 AM
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i mean the 939 procs

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oops, sorry
hmmm...hard to tell...my guess would be around 700 +/- a hundred bux maybe...
i guess it depends on a lot of factors...availability, performance compared to the current A64 FX and whether the competition will come up with something nasty next year...

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 10/08/2003 02:29 AM
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yeah, i just hope they'll be at $400, that'll be the sweet spot for me

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939 FX will be my next Setup .....

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QUOTE (Dagalidis @ Oct 8 2003, 03:37 PM) 939 FX will be my next Setup .....
it'll probably be mine too
add that with DDR-2 and and NV40/R420, it'll be great

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can i have your *old* A64 setup when you get a Socket 939 mobo/cpu?

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QUOTE (Hellraiser @ Oct 8 2003, 03:43 PM) can i have your *old* A64 setup when you get a Socket 939 mobo/cpu?
old?
you mean my 1700@2.33GHz?

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Money money money.....
I Need a Loan

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QUOTE (Dagalidis @ Oct 8 2003, 03:48 PM) Money money money.....
I Need a Loan
so do i......
i'm 16, in grade 10(called form 4 here in malaysia)

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BTW Christmas Day is not so FAR

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QUOTE (Hellraiser @ Oct 7 2003, 10:27 PM) oops, sorry
hmmm...hard to tell...my guess would be around 700 +/- a hundred bux maybe...
i guess it depends on a lot of factors...availability, performance compared to the current A64 FX and whether the competition will come up with something nasty next year...
depending on yield, i think we could easily see the FX depreciate into the mid to low 600's for launch prices. Right now, yields aren't as good as they will be further into the process.

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yeah, SOI seems like the reason why the A64 was delayed
i just hope they can get 0.09 micron with SOI with little probs

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As far as I know, the price might be lower, becouse with the 0.09u process AMD can make more CPUs from a single (I really hope 300mm ) slice...
Since all the Hammers have a HUGE core, 0.09u process could help reduce the costs.
Anyway, 4 layer boards used by the 939 pin A64 FX WILL BE cheaper!

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I would imagine the price on the FXs would drop a little once the .09 die shrink takes place. It'll allow AMD's yields to increase while also decreasing manufacturing costs. If AMD also decides to move to 300mm wafers, that will increase yields further. I don't think we'll see any FXs launched in the $400-500, but they should be significantly cheaper than the current FXs at $700+.

Hellraiser, as far as I know, the Athlon 64 FX will be transitioning to the .09 shrink via the Athens core. I don't see AMD using the San Diego core because that core is the next iteration of the Athlon 64. The Athlon 64 FX is, after all, nothing more than an Opteron at this point. So it fits that it'll be using the next Opteron core. Either that or AMD will make a new core in order to differentiate the two by more than just pin count

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Both Athens and San Diego will be 0.09µ SOI for sure - just look at the roadmap' ">http://www.amd.com/us-en/Proce.../0,,30_118_608,00.html

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You are correct about that. I was simply differentiating the positioning of the cores. Athens will be a .09 micron Opteron/Athlon 64 FX core and San Diego will be a .09 micron Athlon 64 core.

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