AMD Processors
Decrease font size
Increase font size
Topic Title: 2800+ vs. 2800+
Topic Summary:
Created On: 10/06/2003 07:31 PM
Status: Read Only
Linear : Threading : Single : Branch
Search Topic Search Topic
Topic Tools Topic Tools
View similar topics View similar topics
View topic in raw text format. Print this topic.
 10/06/2003 07:31 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
monte84
Elite

Posts: 2174
Joined: 10/06/2003

the 2800+ t-bred or the 2800+ barton, which and why? Which is the best for gaming?

-------------------------
Phenom II X 1055T @3.64Ghz 1.425V
NB @ 2800Mhz HTT @ 2800Mhz
Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5
8GB Crucial Ballistix @ 1866 8-8-8-24-33-1T
AMD Radeon HD6950 2GB GDDR5 shaders @1536 OC to 840/1300
 10/06/2003 08:04 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
SDA
Senior Member

Posts: 3895
Joined: 10/06/2003

Believe it or not, they perform about the same; that's why they have the same PR number. I'd go with the Barton if I were you, though, it probably has more overclocking headroom.

To be perfectly honest, I'd say your best choice would lie with the 2500+, you can get a free 3200+ (200x11) out of it with no voltage tweaks and just be done with it. But hey, it's your choice.

-------------------------
DEC Pentium X2 5200+ w/ HyperCache (Ezra core)
Asus M7NCD-MAX3 (OPTi Vendetta 82C760)
6x Generic 32MB PC2700 RDRAM (50ns SIMMs)
2x nVidia Millennium X1800 Duo (SLI mode)
12x (daisy-chained) Quantum Medalist 180GXP (w/ separate SCSI-1 adapter)

"Oh, you started a Rube Goldberg machine. A Rube Goldberg machine... called JUSTICE." <a href='http://www.boomspeed.com/old_camper/amdforumsircchat.ht
 10/06/2003 08:06 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
monte84
Elite

Posts: 2174
Joined: 10/06/2003

i think the t-bred edges out in more cases due to higher clock, exception coming in at cache intensive programs.
BTW, i own a t-bred, this i just for some disscussion on differences

thanks for reply

-monte84

-------------------------
Phenom II X 1055T @3.64Ghz 1.425V
NB @ 2800Mhz HTT @ 2800Mhz
Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5
8GB Crucial Ballistix @ 1866 8-8-8-24-33-1T
AMD Radeon HD6950 2GB GDDR5 shaders @1536 OC to 840/1300
 10/06/2003 08:09 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
SDA
Senior Member

Posts: 3895
Joined: 10/06/2003

Some games eat raw clock speed, some games stress the memory subsystem more.. I don't know which are which, with a few exceptions (Quake III loves clock speed, Splinter Cell loves memory subsystem).

-------------------------
DEC Pentium X2 5200+ w/ HyperCache (Ezra core)
Asus M7NCD-MAX3 (OPTi Vendetta 82C760)
6x Generic 32MB PC2700 RDRAM (50ns SIMMs)
2x nVidia Millennium X1800 Duo (SLI mode)
12x (daisy-chained) Quantum Medalist 180GXP (w/ separate SCSI-1 adapter)

"Oh, you started a Rube Goldberg machine. A Rube Goldberg machine... called JUSTICE." <a href='http://www.boomspeed.com/old_camper/amdforumsircchat.ht
 10/06/2003 09:51 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
monte84
Elite

Posts: 2174
Joined: 10/06/2003

QUOTE (monte84 @ Oct 6 2003, 04:06 PM) i think the t-bred edges out in more cases due to higher clock, exception coming in at cache intensive programs.
BTW, i own a t-bred, this i just for some disscussion on differences

thanks for reply

-monte84
read second line...just for disscussion

-------------------------
Phenom II X 1055T @3.64Ghz 1.425V
NB @ 2800Mhz HTT @ 2800Mhz
Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5
8GB Crucial Ballistix @ 1866 8-8-8-24-33-1T
AMD Radeon HD6950 2GB GDDR5 shaders @1536 OC to 840/1300
 10/07/2003 12:28 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
JohnCrichton
Junior Member

Posts: 4
Joined: 10/06/2003

QUOTE (PorBleemo @ Oct 6 2003, 07:36 PM)The Barton produces more heat because of it's larger core as a result or twice as much cache.  This might affect your decision but I'm thinking not.

-Por
the Barton is able to dissipate more heat due to its larger size, as well. I find that they run cooler than previous cores, all else being equal.

 10/07/2003 05:26 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
youyouhun
Member

Posts: 42
Joined: 10/07/2003

QUOTE (monte84 @ Oct 6 2003, 03:31 PM) the 2800+ t-bred or the 2800+ barton, which and why? Which is the best for gaming?
barton
t-bred:L2 is too small to run the big games
barton:better than t-bred

-------------------------
Update my Signature


i am sorry,please forgive my poor English!
 10/07/2003 05:50 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
xUNREALNEOx
Member

Posts: 149
Joined: 10/06/2003

the tbred 2800+ is clocked @ 2.25Ghz I believe, that doesn't leave much room for overclocking.

at stock I think the tbred just edges it.

-------------------------

14,434 9600Pro' ">http://wijzr.url.cjb.net/ 12,415 Ti200' ">http://batey.url.cjb.net/ 4,029 9600Pro' ">http://mgzue.url.cjb.net/
.:Team cpucity:.' ">http://www.cpucity.co.uk
:: MadOnion
 10/07/2003 06:04 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Brian
Member

Posts: 98
Joined: 10/06/2003

i'd go with the T-bred......
but it hardly to be found here nowadays

-------------------------
Folding For Team AnandTech Distributed Computing' ">http://forums.anandtech.com/categories.cfm?catid=39

My Humble Forums' ">http://forums.hellstormraiders.com
 10/07/2003 06:09 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
youyouhun
Member

Posts: 42
Joined: 10/07/2003

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 7 2003, 02:04 AM) i'd go with the T-bred......
but it hardly to be found here nowadays


-------------------------
Update my Signature


i am sorry,please forgive my poor English!
 10/07/2003 11:06 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
monte84
Elite

Posts: 2174
Joined: 10/06/2003

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 7 2003, 02:04 AM) i'd go with the T-bred......
but it hardly to be found here nowadays
multiplyer bump

geuss its not the same :\

-------------------------
Phenom II X 1055T @3.64Ghz 1.425V
NB @ 2800Mhz HTT @ 2800Mhz
Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5
8GB Crucial Ballistix @ 1866 8-8-8-24-33-1T
AMD Radeon HD6950 2GB GDDR5 shaders @1536 OC to 840/1300
 10/07/2003 11:25 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Greyhound
Senior Member

Posts: 5449
Joined: 10/07/2003

there never were so many 2800+ T-Breds...those have always been pretty rare.
i'd still go with the Barton because of the 512KB L2 - the more recent steppings seem to OC very well and at the same clockspeed a barton will outperform a T-Bred

-------------------------
The opinions expressed above do not represent those of Advanced Micro Devices or any of their affiliates.

<center><font color=red>MODERATOR</center></font>

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 89W :: Asus M2N32SLI Deluxe :: 2x1024MB Muskin XP2-6400 DDR2-800 :: BeQuiet! Darkpower Pro 530W :: 2x WD Raptor 74GB/10k rpm, RAID 0 :: ATI Radeon X1950XTX
 10/07/2003 03:08 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
EdG
Senior Member

Posts: 1592
Joined: 10/07/2003

If your not overclocking then a t-bred may be the better choice, but these Barton @ 2.3 , 2.3+ Ghz go zoom zoom... zoom!


Antec SX-1040BII Full Tower/Smart Power 400W
Asus A7N8X v2.00 (Standard) BIOS 1004
Barton 2800+ (333FSB 512K L2) [Retail - AQUCA 0307]
Vantec Aeroflow VA4-C7040 w/Artic Silver 3
Corsair XMS 3200LLPT [2-2-2-6-T1]
ChainTech GT20+ - Geforce 4 Ti4200 64M 4x AGP w/S-Video & DVI out
2-WD 120 8MB, DVD and CD writters
etc,etc...
@ 2200 - 1.675v
@ 2273 - 1.700v
@ 2315 - 1.725v
@ 2388 - 1.800v - far as I'll take her till A64 are cheaper!
Statistics
112018 users are registered to the AMD Processors forum.
There are currently 0 users logged in.

FuseTalk Hosting Executive Plan v3.2 - © 1999-2014 FuseTalk Inc. All rights reserved.



Contact AMD Terms and Conditions ©2007 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Privacy Trademark information