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 10/08/2003 07:06 AM
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First of all, I hope that someone official will shed some light on barton steppings (please )

got 2500+ AQXEA 0329 XPMW

using dr. thermal TI-V7725L 4500rpm aluminium heatsink with copper slug

10.5x200 1.675vcore load:44
11x200 1.775vcore load: 51

No 'oc using stock voltage' success like you see... It's a shock to me when I see people going 11x200 with 1.65vcore
Did you people stress your system long enough? Mine worked ok 11x200 1.725vcore but got frozen while folding, 1.75 started folding ok but made errors after 4-5 hours, 1.775 looks ok

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 10/08/2003 07:38 AM
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i need 1.75V to run 200x11.0 stable 24/7
i have an old Barton 2500+ AQUCA 0307

what mobo, RAM and PSU do you have?

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 10/08/2003 12:55 PM
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NF7-S, ram is "A data" (yeah, makes you wonder ) and maxpower 400w psu
tried ram at 225 fsb, oc-ed well, but psu looks shabby... haven't got money to play with enermax

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Barton 1833@2200 (11.0x200) AQXEA 0329 XPMW 1.75vcore
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 10/08/2003 03:05 PM
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xp 2500 AQXEA 0330 VPMW Y

22o0mhz 1.65v stable
2400mhz 1.88v........24/7 use stable
2710mhz 2.25v.......very unstable

slk-600/vantec tornado 84cfm
2x120mm 126cfm =252cfm into the case + window duct

keeps cpu at 37c idle 42c load

case temp 22c

outside air temp 20.5c

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slk-600 vantec tornado 84.1cfm
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2x120mm=252cfm
Antec truepower 430w

 10/08/2003 03:17 PM
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Those temps are they from MBM?
I have a diode-temp at 50c low and 60+ high running my 2500 AQXEA@stock on A7N8X dlx. Use SK7 with a TTfan @ 2200RPM. My casetemp is 14-17c.

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 10/08/2003 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (mphst @ Oct 8 2003, 11:17 AM) Those temps are they from MBM?
I have a diode-temp at 50c low and 60+ high running my 2500 AQXEA@stock on A7N8X dlx. Use SK7 with a TTfan @ 2200RPM. My casetemp is 14-17c.
If you are talking to me, they are from the winbond hardware doctor that came with the nf7-s........

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 10/08/2003 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (mphst @ Oct 8 2003, 11:17 AM) I have a diode-temp at 50c low and 60+ high running my 2500 AQXEA@stock on A7N8X dlx. Use SK7 with a TTfan @ 2200RPM. My casetemp is 14-17c.
whoa that can't be right
stock voltage, frequency, and it's going to 60C? the sensor must be getting wrong readings (upgrade BIOS) or you mounted the heatsink incorrectly (or splattered the thermal paste all over the place)

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 10/08/2003 03:54 PM
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QUOTE ([borg] @ Oct 8 2003, 11:39 AM) whoa that can't be right
stock voltage, frequency, and it's going to 60C? the sensor must be getting wrong readings (upgrade BIOS) or you mounted the heatsink incorrectly (or splattered the thermal paste all over the place)
Yah have thought of wrong readings, but I don't like to OC if the readings should be right.
Gave it a Delta Exterme Screamer and got a high at 52c, and that makes sense.

But I would really like to know if it's socket or diode-readings when temps are posted.

I get socket readings at 41c when my diode reads 55.

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 10/08/2003 08:26 PM
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Stepping

AXDA2500DKV4D
Y881697260288
AQXEA 0334spmw

1.8volt's
219x10.5
for another 48 hours then I move up to
225x10.5
for about 3 day after that I have no Idea.

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 10/08/2003 11:58 PM
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Lets see...

AXDA2500DKV4D F407967250578 AQXEA0329SPMW

2100, 1.65, <40ºC
2200, 1.65-1.70, ~42ºC
2300, 1.80, 45ºC?
2400, 2.15, ~52ºC

Come on guys, get some real cooling! An SK-7 + Smartfan II @ 2600RPM will work wonders.
 10/09/2003 12:23 AM
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QUOTE (mphst @ Oct 8 2003, 11:54 AM) I get socket readings at 41c when my diode reads 55.
oh, I missed that that's your custom diode reading the temps
just stick with the socket one, it looks more realistic

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Barton 1833@2200 (11.0x200) AQXEA 0329 XPMW 1.75vcore
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FX5600 256 DDR 350/450
 10/09/2003 04:37 AM
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I just replied to another thread, I've so far (new system) overclocked my 2500 from 11 x 166 @ 1.65 to 12 x 166 @ 1.65 and it's been working fine.
Just watched the simpsons and it's been stable, will try some benchies then go up to 12.5 etc.
 10/09/2003 09:29 AM
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UDHA, the most important info is your stepping and cooler
my guess is AQXEA, that's roughly my o/c

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 10/11/2003 12:56 PM
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in what order were the steppings for barton released?
AQUCA - AQXDA - AQXEA - AQXFA is my guess
do they get changed after few weeks and never reappear again(get replaced with newer steppings)?

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 10/11/2003 02:20 PM
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2500+ AQXEA 0323WPAW "Y"

stable clocks:

1.55v - 200 x 11
1.80v - 230 x 10.5

temps@2.4Ghz:

cpu 39c Max
system 23c Max

Air cooling

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Barton 2800+ [ 250 x 10 , 2.0V ] , SP-97
Mushkin Black Level II PC3500 [ 3.2V , 11-2-2-2.0 ]
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Antec TC 550 , Klispch ProMedia 4.1

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 10/11/2003 03:06 PM
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1.55 V -> 2200
1.625 V -> 2300
1.775 V -> 2400
1.875 V -> 2500
1.95 V -> 2616
2.03 V -> 2678 not so stable

AQZEA 0331 Z********* and the rest i cant remember....

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 10/11/2003 06:09 PM
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forget about my crappy stepping chronology AQZEA and AQXCA just don't fit anywhere

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 10/11/2003 06:18 PM
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I think it goes something like this, though I bet I'm missing a few...

AIUAA -> AQUCA -> AQXCA -> AQXDA -> AQXEA -> AQZEA -> AQZFA


In terms of OCability, supposedly the scale is:

AQZFA > AQZEA > AQXEA == AQXDA > AQXCA > AQUCA > AIUAA


I'm sure AMD will tell us the actual order... hey, I can dream, can't I?

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oc-ability isn't entirely related to the corecode(i.e. AQXEA), but also the stepping(i.e. MPMW) that determines the oc-ability. I have 2 different 2500+ processers, with AQXEA and AQFZA core, and they are quite equal when it comes to overclocking. Ill list the results:
AQXEA 0332 TPMW
max @ 1.65v: 2150Mhz
max @ 1.75v: 2240Mhz
max @ 1.85v: 2300Mhz

AQFZA 0335 TPMW
max @ 1.65v: 2200Mhz
max @ 1.75v: 2288Mhz
max @ 1.85v: 2340Mhz

It's been said that the XPMW and MPMW steppings are the best overclockable.The TPMW
stepping like mine are moderate overclockers.

Edit:
I'm a member of a Dutch overclocking site, and this is their conclusion on overclockability (list is not complete and results may vary):

Cores:

AQUCA
AQXCA
AQXDA
AQXEA
AQZEA

Steppings:

XPMW
XPAW
TPAW
MPMW
TLPW
TPNW
TPMW
TPCW
WPMW
VPMW
UPAW
UPCW
SPAW

On top are the best overclockers, on the bottom the worst.

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 10/12/2003 01:48 AM
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Add an SPMW to the bottom of that list. My SPMW sucks.
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