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 02/03/2005 06:57 PM
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I've recently lost most of my PC due to a Motherboard going *BOOM*, possibly due to past heat damage - so a question...

I am running an Athlon XP 2000+, with Akasa AKA-785SE CPU Cooler (i.e - no frills 5000rpm CPU Fan) on an Abit KV7-V Motherboard, and would be very grateful if anybody could advise me or just roughly estimate what my "normal" System/CPU temperature would be?

Notes: nothing is O/C, 1 Fan (CPU), no thermal compound used.

It currently hovers between about 32c and 54c, depending on CPU usage...

Also, would a beefier CPU Cooler help? (i.e - 1 meant for XP 3200+, etc)

Appreciated!

 02/03/2005 07:06 PM
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your fine my pc runs at 54-63*C
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Althon XP 2600 to Althon Xp 3300 about
 02/03/2005 07:21 PM
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My Athlon XP 3200+ (standard boxed HSF) runs at 54C-64C (thats with round cables tied up out of the way, dual fan Antec PSU, rear exhaust, front and side inlets).

AMD CPUs are rated as safe to peak up as high as 80C (although the lower the temp, the better the stability)

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 02/03/2005 08:17 PM
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You need some kind of thermal compound, be it a stock T.I.M. pad or thermal grease of some kind. without it, your asking for another boom.

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 02/04/2005 06:06 AM
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Thank you!

I'll see about getting some thermal compound applied... unfortunately, I'm not physically able to do it myself due to health

Airflow and everything seems ok, so perhaps the lack of thermal compound is the main culprit...

Would a Cooler meant for faster AMD's (i.e - XP 3200+) help at all? I assume they'd have a better heatsink, and not just be an updated description on the packaging?

Note: with Smart Fan control disabled, the temp seems to max at 52.5c, in mild conditions, rooms 17-20c.

I'd just like to cool it below 50c with 100% CPU usage....

I am somewhat puzzled by the fact that when the PC was built and tested using WinXP Pro, it idled at 23c, not the 32c+ I'm getting now
 02/04/2005 06:22 AM
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If your looking at aftermarket coolers, make sure they are rated at least 3200+. Many of the better one's will say 3400+. The Coolermaster Xdream is a good lower priced cooler that is virtually silent, and does a good job with its stock fan.
Also, OCZ ultra silver 5 compound seems to be as good or better than Artic silver, and I checked it with a multimeter, and can't get any reading out of it, so it must be non conductive.

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 02/04/2005 05:00 PM
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Thanks again.

Is thermal paste absolutely necessary..?

If I remember right, a CPU Cooler usually has a thermal pad pre-applied? Is that adequate?

Note: I've ordered an Akasa AK-795 XP3200+/Copper.

 02/05/2005 03:14 AM
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Stock Coolers hava a thermal pad allready applied.
For market coolers...it depends on the cooler...But if your temps are correct, yours propably have some TIM installed.Otherwise you d have a lot higher temps...You dont have any stability issues do you? Comp crashing at high CPU load or anything?


Oh and a little TIM tutorial from AC5 if you are curious about what your thermal compound does Thermal Interface Basics' ">http://www.arcticsilver.com/th...l_interface_basics.htm

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 02/05/2005 06:10 AM
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Appreciated!

The cooler I've ordered has a pre-applied thermal pad - I think - its mentioned on some websites in the product description, but not others

(Akasa AK-795 XP3200+/Copper - I'm on a very tight budget)

This might sound like a stupid question, but what exactly is the difference between a Cooler rated for XP3200+ and 1 rated for 2100+ (my existing 1)?


I get 80% CPU usage while idling, quite a lot of the time - a Win 98 problem I think.

I've run the CPU under 100% load by gaming, testing, etc and no unusual crashing yet.
 02/05/2005 12:30 PM
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80% while idling? I dont remember if it was an NT feature...but when you press ctrl+alt+del on the processed tab, it shows wich process uses what percentage of your CPU. Try that, in case its a virus or something.
To answer your question, different CPUs require different ammount of power and thuss have diferent "Thermal Power" (in Watts) wich means they produce different amounts of heat.
For example an 3200+ HSF can eficiently cool a 76.8W CPU (the 3200+)
while a 2100HSF can efficiently cool a 62.1W CPU (the 2100+)

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 02/05/2005 12:35 PM
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Thanks for the info...

I'm using Win 98 FE (for now... upgrading to XP in a few weeks hopefully), no easy way to tell whats using the CPU, but a utility called ATM says its kernel32.dll hogging 95% of the CPU... odd.

 02/05/2005 12:41 PM
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FE? You mean First Edition? Thats a troublesome OS. Second edition is much more stable...Not as stable as the NT core of the XP though. Good choise for the upgrade. Do it ASAP. (I trust you have 256+ MB of ram)

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