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 04/03/2006 09:28 AM
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robburne
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Hi,

I am considering buying a laptop which has the following processor:

AMD Mobile Sempron 3000+ / 1.8 GHz

I want to run Cubase SX v 3.0 which recommends:

Athlon 800 MHz (Pentium / Athlon 2.8 GHz or faster recommended).

Does this meet the recommended spec? What is the difference between the Athlon and a Sempron or is the Sempron an Athlon.

Thnaks,

Rob.
 04/03/2006 09:36 AM
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does your software ask for athlon 2.8 gig,

if it does then i dont think so because a sempron is not 2.8, the dual core x2s dont even reach 2.8 yet

you would be able to run it for sure but you might not get the speed you want
 04/03/2006 02:10 PM
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The difference between the Athlon and the Sempron is performance, the Athlon performs better than the Sempron. (The AMD Athlon64 FX-57 goes 2800Mhz... little bit pricy though...)

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 04/03/2006 02:26 PM
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it says pentium or athlon 2.8ghz which means pentium 2.8ghz or athlon equivalent which is 2800+

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 04/03/2006 02:40 PM
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Ok so the chip is a Sempron 3000 so that is a 3ghz equivalent right? But is the Sempron an Athlon chip?

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Rob.
 04/03/2006 03:03 PM
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Allardo
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quote:

Originally posted by: robburne
Ok so the chip is a Sempron 3000 so that is a 3ghz equivalent right? But is the Sempron an Athlon chip?

Thanks,

Rob.



No not realy, it is a bit difficult to explain, the Sempron runs on lower speeds and has a smaller L2 cache than an Athlon, both (speed and cache) have great effect on the perfomance, so when you've got the choice between an Athlon or the Sempron I would go for the Athlon.
(you could compare it with intels pentium and the celeron)

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 04/03/2006 08:14 PM
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No not realy, it is a bit difficult to explain, the Sempron runs on lower speeds and has a smaller L2 cache than an Athlon, both (speed and cache) have great effect on the perfomance, so when you've got the choice between an Athlon or the Sempron I would go for the Athlon.
(you could compare it with intels pentium and the celeron)

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Actually, I have experience with Pro-Audio Apps (Cubase VST 32) and I haven't yet seen the recommendations for an Athlon systems such as that....2.8 GHZ?
Are AMD processors up to that speed in MHZ thus far. (not including PR ratings)

As for the comparison between the two, I would say if you are looking for a good price/performance ratio...get a 64 bit Sempron. They have 256K cache as compared
to the 512 cache in the Athlons... but 50% the cache only translates to roughly 2-3% difference in performance. Also, the Athlons run slighlty hotter than the Semprons, probably
due to the larger die size and double the amount of cache.

I use a Sempron 2800+ overclocked to 2.1 GHZ and I have not yet touched half of this processor's capabilities in Cubase. That includes 32 tracks of processor intensive
effects and plug ins. The onboard memory controller and increased Hypertransport speed will ensure that if you decide to get the Sempron, you won't be dissappointed.
I was able to do countless tracks using my Duron 1.8 GHZ three years ago.

Hope this helps

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 04/04/2006 04:29 AM
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3000 is the PR (performance rating). Semprons are AMD's competitor to the CeleronD. So it's it's equivalent to an Intel CeleronD 3GHz.

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 04/04/2006 01:14 PM
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quote:

Originally posted by: bogey
3000 is the PR (performance rating). Semprons are AMD's competitor to the CeleronD. So it's it's equivalent to an Intel CeleronD 3GHz.



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Yes.....Marketing wise, it is comparable to the Celeron...it was made as Celeron's low priced but definitely much more efficient - competitor.
The Sempron 3000+ has only 128 KB of L2 Cache, but the 2600+, 2800+ etc will blow the doors off of the Celeron D with it's 256 KB of L2 cache, as proven in gaming systems and many benchmark tests.

The Sempron can also compete with the Pentium (especially non-hyperthreading versions) in certain tasks such as gaming, some multimedia. Tasks such as video encoding would go in favor of the Pentium 4s. Of course this is considering that the clocks speeds are somewhat in the same
ballpark.



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Sempron 64 3100+ OC'd to 2.5 GHZ (313 FSB @ 1.58 volts)
Abit NF8 Motherboard
Aspire X-Cruiser Case
1 GB DDR 3700 Elixir Ram @ 133 Div.
Thermal Take Big Typhoon HSF
Generic 450W PSU
Radeon 9550 @ 460/280*2
Dual Maxtor 7,200 RPM Drives @ 120 GB
Audiophile 24/96 Soundcard


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