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 09/27/2005 06:21 PM
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abertawe
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I have recently attempted my first system build and the BIOS on my MSI KM4M-V Socket A motherboard is reporting temperatures of around 59 C within minutes of switching on. I have installed the AMD fan that came in the retail box. Any number of possible explanantions offer themselves, such as that the thermal pad is poorly seated, or the temperature sensor is inaccurate. Any suggestions as to the cause of the problem and any possible remedy?

Incidentally, what is the normal idle range for a Socket A Sempron 2200+?


System info:

Antec SLK1650B - with 12 cm rear fan
Crucial 512 MB PC2700 RAM
MSI KM4M-V
Seagate ST3120026A 120GB 7200rpm 8mb Cache Barracuda 7200.7 Plus
Sony DWQ28AB2 DVD-RW

CPU fan speed 3068
System fan speed 2721
System temperature 16 C


Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
 09/27/2005 06:25 PM
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marcus_667
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my sempron 64 2600+ idles at 49 - 51 degrees c
@ 1800 mhz and 57 on full load but its moer then likely ure temp sensor is out m8 try getting the latest update for youre mobo

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 09/27/2005 06:32 PM
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That's not overheating. The max die temp it 85C, what are your load temps like?

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 09/28/2005 08:15 AM
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abertawe
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I have the latest BIOS version (1.4) for the KM4M-V.

The heatsink is cold to the touch - so I guess that suggests a sensor problem - unless the thermal pad is not making any contact at all with the processor??

I haven't done a load test yet, because I haven't even got a hard drive in - should arrive today hopefully. Patience is not my greatest virtue.

Thanks for the advice.
 09/28/2005 08:53 AM
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wel if the thermal pad wasnt conecting properly youre pc would be dead wudnt it ?
mines @ 1.88 ghz /biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /> i tidyied the inside of my pc up and i had to much v core for my oc its not 45*c and 50*c under full load and has been running like this for nearly 9 hours solid, im just going to get a new power supply to get it over 2 ghz

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First rig: Intel core 2 qx6700@ 3.5 gHz|ge-force 8800gtx sli|3 gig gskill ram|750 gig seagate and a 150 gig raptor | anted ninehundred case| enermax galaxy 1kw psu | dell 3007

Second Rig: Amd Athlon X2 6000+ | 8800 gtx|wd raptor 74 and a 320 seagate | 2 gig ram|sb x-fi | seasonic m12 700watt | coolermaster stacker 830 black | dell 2407
 09/28/2005 01:31 PM
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Is the heatsink on the right way around?
The heatsink should feel warm to the touch. If it's the wrong way around it won't make good contact with the core.

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 09/28/2005 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(bogey @ Sep 28 2005, 06:31 PM)Is the heatsink on the right way around?
The heatsink should feel warm to the touch. If it's the wrong way around it won't make good contact with the core.
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Yes the heatsink is on the right way around - I've verified this with the help of the AMD installation video.
 09/29/2005 07:08 PM
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Well I would not worry, I ran a Sempron 2200+ before my upgrade, It ran hot, but not dangerous, as a matter of fact your a few degrees cooler than I was.

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 09/30/2005 12:43 PM
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well im @ 2.3 ghz now and its running 43*c idle and 50*c full load hows this possible /dry.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='dry.gif' />

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First rig: Intel core 2 qx6700@ 3.5 gHz|ge-force 8800gtx sli|3 gig gskill ram|750 gig seagate and a 150 gig raptor | anted ninehundred case| enermax galaxy 1kw psu | dell 3007

Second Rig: Amd Athlon X2 6000+ | 8800 gtx|wd raptor 74 and a 320 seagate | 2 gig ram|sb x-fi | seasonic m12 700watt | coolermaster stacker 830 black | dell 2407
 09/30/2005 04:44 PM
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I have no idea, I never got mine above 1.9 my self, thats a pretty good OC if you ask me.

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 10/28/2005 10:18 AM
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You may be reassured to hear that I have now used two KM4M-V motherboards in different XP 3000+ machines and in my view both of them are reporting the CPU temperature too high by at least 10-15 deg C
I have, this morning had to change the long-serving motherboard on the PC which I am using for this post and was obliged to use a KM4M-V as being the only readily available skt A option. With absolutely every component (other than the motherboard unchanged) the "idling" temperature for the CPU has (according to the KM4M-V) changed from 48 deg C to 65 deg C - I simply don't believe it!
 11/09/2005 05:34 PM
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I recently built a computer for my nephew and i used the km4m-v motherboard. It has an xp2700 in it. I noticed my cpu temp would start at 54 degrees celcius then rise to 60 - 61 degrees celcius idle. I took the cpu fan off and cleaned everything up and tried some more paste and put it all back together, till it was all said and done, i did this about 10 times and the best i got was my first average temps. oh and when i ran games and restarted the computer in the middle of a high requirement game and go right into the bios and check it, it would be 65-67 degrees. I then purchased a new cpu fan that had a predetermined amount of paste on it (thinking it was me putting too much or too little on it) I ended up with the same results. I see you have the same problems. I imagine its a crappy heat sensor on the motherboard. Just thought ide' share that.
 11/10/2005 12:25 AM
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I thought this topic was dead, oh well.

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 11/20/2005 09:41 PM
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Same issue.
On previous MB ran at 45 degrees C.
Switched cpu (Athlon 1800) to new KM4M-V.
Temp hovers aroung 69 from outset.
Tried two different fans (one AMD oem fan) and have same problem.
Not a thermal paste or fan issue in my case.
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