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 10/13/2005 04:24 PM
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Fodd3r
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Hey PPL!!

This is my first post and I really need some help. i heard that these Sempron were easy enough to O/C, but I can't get this baby stable after 1603 MHz. /mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' />

I heard that maybe that it may have to do with the RAM I have - PC3200 400MHz DDR (no manufacturer - generic mebbe?) and the CAS latency.

Plus - for some reason, either the BioS or chipset I have won't allow me to change the multiplier value - defaults to 7 and I can't change it. (9 - 10.5 would be nice!!

In Bios, I think I have the FSB set to 166MHz - but this board is still set for North/South

So any help would be appreciated. Please Please Please!!!

So here are system specs from AIDA32: (sorry for the overload of info - but I really need help with this.

Thanks in advance!!

Fodd3r


SYSTEM SPECS :
[ WCPUID Version 3.3 © 1996-2004 By H.Oda! ]

Processor #1 : AMD Athlon 64 FX-153 / E9321D49
Platform : Socket940 (mCPGA Package)
Vendor String : AuthenticAMD
CPU Type : Original OEM Processor (0)
Family : 15 (15)
Model : 12 (12)
Stepping ID : 2 (2)
Brand ID : 0 (2433)
APIC : 0
HT Log.CPU Cnt : ----
Name String : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown

Internal Clock : 1603.63 MHz
System Bus : 229.09 MHz
System Clock : 229.09 MHz
Multiplier : 7.0 - I can't change this BioS or on the mobo

L1 I-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 D-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 T-Cache : ----
L1 Cache : ----
L2 Cache : 256K Byte
L2 Speed : 1603.63 MHz (Full)

Clock: 1603.63 Hz
PCI: 37.00
AGP: 592.00

Curent voltage settings @ time of post:

VCoreA - 1.39
VCoreB - N/A
+3.3V - 3.32
+5V - 5.13
+12V - N/A
-12V - N/A
-5V - N/A
5VSB - N/A
VBAT - N/A

Temp: CPU : 24 C
SYSTEM : 27 C



MMX Unit : Supported
SSE Unit : Supported
SSE2 Unit : Supported
SSE3 Unit : Supported
MMX2 Unit : Supported
3DNow! Unit : Supported
3DNow!+ Unit : Supported

Host Bridge : 1039:0760.03 [SiS 760]
IDE Controller : 1039:5513.01 [SiS 5513]
VGA Device : 1002:5961.01 [ATI RADEON 9200 Series]
Memory Size : 512M Byte
Memory Clock : ----

OS Version : Windows XP Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2


$$--- Cache Information (Processor #1)

[L1 Information]
Instruct.Cache : 64K byte cache size 2-way set associative 64 byte line size 1

line par tag
Instruct. TLB : 4K byte Pages fully associative 32 entries
: 2M/4M byte pages fully associative 8 entries
Data Cache : 64K byte cache size 2-way set associative 64 byte line size 1

line par tag
Data TLB : 4K byte Pages fully associative 32 entries
: 2M/4M byte pages fully associative 8 entries

[L2 Information]
Level 2 Cache : 256K byte cache size 16-way set associative 64 byte line size 1

line par tag
Instruct.TLB : 2M/4M byte pages Off 0 entries
: 4K byte pages 4-way set associative 512 entries
Data TLB : 2M/4M byte pages Off 0 entries
: 4K byte pages 4-way set associative 512 entries

$$--- System Information

[BIOS Information]
Vendor String : Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version String : 6.00 PG
Release Date : 09/06/2004
ROM Size : 512 KB

[Motherboard Information]
Manufacturer : WinFast
Product String : SiS-760GXK8MB
Version String : (non)
Serial Number : WYWE50305665


$$--- Chipset Information

Host Bridg : 1039 0760 03 0C54105B SiS 760
ISA Bridg : 1039 0964 36 00000000
IDE Controller : 1039 5513 01 0C54105B SiS 5513
VGA Device : 1002 5961 01 20021002 ATI RADEON 9200 Series

AGP Revision : 3.1 / Enabled
(Status) (Command)
Data Rate : 4x 8x / 8x
Fast Write : Supported / Disabled
4GB Addressing : Not Supported / Disabled
Side Band Addr.: Supported / Enabled
64Bit GART ent.: Not Supported / Disabled
CAL Cycle : 256 ms / 4 ms
ARQSZ : 64 / non
Aperture Size : 64 MB
---------------------------------------------------------------
A0:[02] A1:[D0] A2:[31] A3:[00] A4:[1B] A5:[4E] A6:[00] A7:[1F]
A8:[02] A9:[03] AA:[00] AB:[00] AC:[00] AD:[00] AE:[00] AF:[00]
B0:[80] B1:[01] B2:[00] B3:[00] B4:[30] B5:[0F] B6:[01] B7:[00]
B8:[00] B9:[40] BA:[00] BB:[00] BC:[00] BD:[00] BE:[00] BF:[00]
C0:[00] C1:[00] C2:[00] C3:[00] C4:[00] C5:[00] C6:[00] C7:[00]
C8:[00] C9:[00] CA:[00] CB:[00] CC:[00] CD:[00] CE:[00] CF:[00]


D:2.2 S:2.2 V:T

$$--- Standard Feature Flags (Processor #1)

0 Floating-point unit on-chip (FPU) : Supported
1 Virtual Mode Extensions (VME) : Supported
2 Debugging Extensions (DE) : Supported
3 Page Size Extension (PSE) : Supported
4 Time Stamp Counter (TSC) : Supported
5 Model Specific Registers (MSR) : Supported
6 Physical Address Extension (PAE) : Supported
7 Machine Check Exception (MCE) : Supported
8 CMPXCHG8B Instruction (CX8) : Supported
9 On-chip APIC Hardware (APIC) : Supported
10 Reserved : Not Supported
11 Fast System Call Extensions (SEP) : Supported
12 Memory Type Range Registers (MTRR) : Supported
13 Page Global Enable (PGE) : Supported
14 Machine Check Architecture (MCA) : Supported
15 Conditional Move Instruction (CMOV) : Supported
16 Page Attribute Table (PAT) : Supported
17 36-bit Page Size Extension (PSE36) : Supported
18 96-bit Processor Number (PSN) : Not Supported
19 CLFLUSH Instruction (CLFSH) : Supported
20 Reserved : Not Supported
21 Debug Trace Store (DTS) : Not Supported
22 ACPI Supported (ACPI) : Not Supported
23 MMX Instructions (MMX) : Supported
24 Fast Save and Restore (FXSR) : Supported
25 Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE) : Supported
26 Streaming SIMD Extensions 2 (SSE2) : Supported
27 Self-Snoop (SS) : Not Supported
28 Hyper-Threading Technology (HTT) : Not Supported
29 Thermal Monitor ™ : Not Supported
30 IA-64 Processor Capable (IA-64) : Not Supported
31 Signal Break on FERR (SBF) : Not Supported


$$--- Extended Feature Flags (Processor #1)

0 Floating-point unit on-chip (FPU) : Supported
1 Virtual Mode Extension (VME) : Supported
2 Debugging Extension (DE) : Supported
3 Page Size Extension (PSE) : Supported
4 Time Stamp Counter (TSC) : Supported
5 Model Specific Registers (MSR) : Supported
6 Physical Address Extension (PAE) : Supported
7 Machine Check Exception (MCE) : Supported
8 CMPXCHG8B Instruction (CX8) : Supported
9 On-chip APIC Hardware (APIC) : Supported
10 Reserved : Not Supported
11 Fast System Call (SEP) : Supported
12 Memory Type Range Registers (MTRR) : Supported
13 Page Global Enable (PGE) : Supported
14 Machine Check Architecture (MCA) : Supported
15 Conditional Move Instruction (CMOV) : Supported
16 Page Attribute Table (PAT) : Supported
17 36-bit Page Size Extension (PSE36) : Supported
18 Reserved : Not Supported
19 MultiProcessing Capable (MP) : Not Supported
20 No-execute Page Protection (NX) : Supported
21 Reserved : Not Supported
22 MMX Instruction Extensions (MMX+) : Supported
23 MMX Instructions (MMX) : Supported
24 Fast Save and Restore (FXSR) : Supported
25 Reserved : Supported
26 Reserved : Not Supported
27 Reserved : Not Supported
28 Reserved : Not Supported
29 Long Mode Capable (AMD64) : Supported
30 3DNow! Instruction Extensions (3DNow!+) : Supported
31 3DNow! Instructions (3DNow! : Supported
==================
 10/13/2005 07:44 PM
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The multiplier on the Semprons are locked I believe so you won't be able to change it. You could try lowering the multiplier and see if you can then get past 1.6ghz. But remember, it voids the warranty. /biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

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 10/16/2005 09:34 AM
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Oh well your not going to blow it up just cus you increse it alittle. Know the limit. Don't use volt increases. DO NOT USE VOLTS. You can OC that to 2250mhz if its a 64 bit ver. No way you'll need to worry about anything but temps. You need to try higher fsb speeds. One fsb speed may not work another will. Say 230 doesn't work try going to 240, then 250. Or by 5's. About upto 320fsb. Try Mark3D to do tests to see if your stable when you get to that level.

Make sure your FSB can go that high on your board. Make sure your ram is overclocking ram. Even if its good ram, with no heat seperator, it may fry your memory at speeds like that. Turn the FSB down on your memory if its at 200 if you can? Make it 166fsb or lower until stable. Whats all your bios settings? Read the manual so we can see what your oc options are. If you have junk ram the your ram it the limit big time. Whats its timings?

If you want to OC the biggist thing you need is OCing memory. Like Kingston Hyper X models. Usouly memory without heat seperators are not made to oc and will get too hot when overclocked. The multiplyer means nothing really if you can upin the FSB manualy. If your board is junk and has no options like this, use OCing programs but risk your registery to be lossed if you fail enough at a high enough FBS. OCing won't mess up your comp unless something overheats. OCers usouly get stuff that was made for it. Temps are good until 60C then stop OCing. Or until you reach about 2250mhz. Thats where your multiplyer will try to stop OCing but ppl have gotten higher.

I am in the middle of trying to get my OC's perfected. I can get my CPU upto 1850mhz at 250fsb. So far. I'm still low, but its about 320fsb that it will be maxed at. But your memory will need to be lower. 100fsb then try to OC it or 133fsb. If you get the fsb on the memory at 200fsb with out a heatsink then your memory maybe frying. If you can't monitor MEM temps then you can go by this. 166fsb on memory is usouly running with a heatsink. Beyond 200fsb then its hot. 220fsb may kill it. Try haveing a case fan blowing on them or buy heatsinks for ram.

Its all about trial and error. Your going to make mestakes and clear the Bios plunty of times with a jumper. Write down every setting you put down and keep track of everything. Monitor everything and you'll be fine. If a fsb fails try another. If your comp doesn't work after that. Just clear the bios and try again. Its fun but it takes forever to oc. Do stuff enough right and you'll get a tight system. I hope that helps.
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[quote=Serge84,Oct 16 2005, 06:34 AM]
Oh well your not going to blow it up just cus you increse it alittle.

here's specs from Aida:



Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Computer Name NETVERIF-J4Y9K8
User Name SySoP
Logon Domain NETVERIF-J4Y9K8

Motherboard:
CPU Type Unknown, 1623 MHz
Motherboard Name Unknown
System Memory 510 MB
BIOS Type Award (09/26/05)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter RADEON 9200

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter C-Media CMI8738/C3DX Audio Device

Storage:
Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive WDC WD800BB-00CAA1
CD/DVD Drive SONY DVD RW DRU-800A
CD/DVD Drive ASUS CD-S500/A
CD/DVD Drive Generic DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device

nput:
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse Logitech-compatible Mouse PS/2

Network:
Network Adapter SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter

Peripherals:
Printer Canon PIXMA iP3000

--------[ DMI - BIOS ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version: 6.00 PG
Release Date: 09/26/2005
Size: 512 KB
Boot Devices: Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
Capabilities: Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD
Supported Standards: DMI, APM, ACPI, ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities: ISA, PCI, AGP, USB


--------[ DMI - System ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Manufacturer:
Product:
Version:
Serial Number:
Universal Unique ID: FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF
Wake-Up Type: Power Switch


--------[ DMI - Motherboard ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Manufacturer: WinFast
Product: 760GXK8MB
Version:
Serial Number:


--------[ DMI - Chassis ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Manufacturer:
Version:
Serial Number:
Asset Tag:
Chassis Type: Desktop
Chassis Lock: Unknown
Boot-Up State: Unknown
Power Supply State: Unknown
Thermal State: Unknown
Security Status: Unknown


--------[ DMI - Memory Controller ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Error Detection Method: 64-Bit ECC
Error Correction: None
Supported Memory Interleave: 1-Way
Current Memory Interleave: 1-Way
Supported Memory Speeds: 70ns, 60ns, 50ns
Supported Memory Types: SPM, DIMM
Supported Memory Voltages: 2.9V
Maximum Memory Module Size: 4096 MB
Memory Slots: 2


--------[ DMI - Processors ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Manufacturer: AMD
Version: AMD Sempron™ Processor 2500
Serial Number: Unknown
Asset Tag: Unknown
Part Number: Unknown
External Clock: 232 MHz
Maximum Clock: 3000 MHz
Current Clock: 1624 MHz
Type: Central Processor
Voltage: 1.5 V
Status: Enabled
Upgrade: Unknown
Socket Designation: Socket 940


--------[ DMI - Caches ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Type: Internal
Speed: Unknown
Status: Enabled
Operational Mode: Write-Back
Associativity: Unknown
Maximum Size: 128 KB
Installed Size: 128 KB
Supported SRAM Type: Synchronous
Current SRAM Type: Synchronous
Error Correction: Unknown
Socket Designation: Internal Cache

Type: Internal
Speed: Unknown
Status: Enabled
Operational Mode: Write-Back
Associativity: Unknown
Maximum Size: 256 KB
Installed Size: 256 KB
Supported SRAM Type: Synchronous
Current SRAM Type: Synchronous
Error Correction: Unknown
Socket Designation: External Cache


--------[ DMI - Memory Modules ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Socket Designation: A0
Type: EDO
Speed: 129 ns
Installed Size: 512 MB
Enabled Size: 512 MB

Socket Designation: A1
Type: EDO
Speed: 129 ns
Installed Size: Not Installed
Enabled Size: Not Installed


--------[ DMI - Memory Devices ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Form Factor: DIMM
Type: Unknown
Type Detail: Unknown
Size: 512 MB
Speed: Unknown
Total Width: 64-bit
Data Width: 64-bit
Device Locator: A0
Bank Locator: Bank0/1
Manufacturer: Unknown
Serial Number: Unknown
Asset Tag: Unknown
Part Number: Unknown

Form Factor: DIMM
Type: Unknown
Type Detail: Unknown
Size: 0 MB
Speed: Unknown
Total Width: 64-bit
Data Width: 64-bit
Device Locator: A1
Bank Locator: Bank2/3
Manufacturer: Unknown
Serial Number: Unknown
Asset Tag: Unknown
Part Number: Unknown


--------[ DMI - System Slots ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Slot Designation: PCI0
Type: PCI
Usage: Empty
Data Bus Width: 32-Bit
Length: Long

Slot Designation: PCI1
Type: PCI
Usage: In Use
Data Bus Width: 32-Bit
Length: Long

Slot Designation: PCI2
Type: PCI
Usage: Empty
Data Bus Width: 32-Bit
Length: Long

Slot Designation: PCI3
Type: PCI
Usage: Empty
Data Bus Width: 32-Bit
Length: Long

Slot Designation: AGP
Type: AGP
Usage: In Use
Data Bus Width: 32-Bit
Length: Long


--------[ DMI - Port Connectors ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Port Type: Other
Internal Reference Designator: PRIMARY IDE
Internal Connector Type: On-Board IDE
External Reference Designator: Unknown
External Connector Type: None

Port Type: Other
Internal Reference Designator: SECONDARY IDE
Internal Connector Type: On-Board IDE
External Reference Designator: Unknown
External Connector Type: None

Port Type: 8251 FIFO Compatible
Internal Reference Designator: FDD
Internal Connector Type: On-Board Floppy
External Reference Designator: Unknown
External Connector Type: None

Port Type: Serial Port 16450 Compatible
Internal Reference Designator: COM1
Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
External Reference Designator:
External Connector Type: DB-9 pin male

Port Type: Serial Port 16450 Compatible
Internal Reference Designator: COM2
Internal Connector Type: 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
External Reference Designator:
External Connector Type: DB-9 pin male

Port Type: Parallel Port ECP/EPP
Internal Reference Designator: LPT1
Internal Connector Type: DB-25 pin female
External Reference Designator:
External Connector Type: DB-25 pin female

Port Type: Keyboard Port
Internal Reference Designator: Keyboard
Internal Connector Type: PS/2
External Reference Designator:
External Connector Type: PS/2

Port Type: Mouse Port
Internal Reference Designator: PS/2 Mouse
Internal Connector Type: PS/2
External Reference Designator:
External Connector Type: PS/2

Port Type: USB
Internal Reference Designator: Unknown
Internal Connector Type: None
External Reference Designator: USB0
External Connector Type: Other


--------[ CPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Type: Unknown, 1623 MHz
CPU Alias: Unknown
L1 Code Cache: 64 KB
L1 Data Cache: 64 KB
L2 Cache: 256 KB (Asynchronous)

CPU #1: 100 %


--------[ CPUID ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPUID Manufacturer: AuthenticAMD
CPUID CPU Name: AMD Sempron™ Processor 2500+
CPUID Revision: 0FC2h
Extended CPUID Revision: 0FC2h
IA Brand ID: Unknown
IA Platform ID: Unknown
IA CPU Serial Number: Unknown

36-bit Page Size Extension: Supported
AMD 3DNow! Instruction Set: Supported
AMD 3DNow! Professional Instr. Set: Supported
AMD Enhanced 3DNow! Instruction Set: Supported
AMD Extended MMX Instruction Set: Supported
Automatic Clock Control: Not Supported
CLFLUSH Instruction: Supported
CMOV Instruction: Supported
CMPXCHG8B Instruction: Supported
Cyrix Extended MMX Instruction Set: Supported
Debug Trace && EMON Store: Not Supported
Debugging Extension: Supported
FXSAVE/FXRSTOR Instructions: Supported
Hyper-Threading Technology: Not Supported
IA-64 Instruction Set: Not Supported
IA MMX Instruction Set: Supported
IA Processor Serial Number: Not Supported
IA SSE Instruction Set: Supported
IA SSE 2 Instruction Set: Supported
Local APIC On Chip: Supported
Machine Check Architecture: Supported
Machine Check Exception: Supported
Memory Type Range Registers: Supported
Model Specific Registers: Supported
Page Attribute Table: Supported
Page Global Extension: Supported
Page Size Extension: Supported
Physical Address Extension: Supported
Processor Duty Cycle Control: Not Supported
Self-Snoop: Not Supported
SYSENTER/SYSEXIT Instructions: Supported
Time Stamp Counter: Supported
Virtual Mode Extension: Supported
x86-64 Long Mode: Supported


--------[ Multi CPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#0 1623 MHz AMD x86 Family 15 Model 44 Stepping 2 AMD Sempron™ Processor 2500+


--------[ Motherboard ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Motherboard ID: 09/26/2005-SiS-760-6A7I7FK9C-00
Motherboard Name: Unknown


--------[ Memory ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Physical Memory:
Total 510 MB
Used 308 MB
Free 202 MB
Utilization 60 %

Swap Space:
Total 1248 MB
Used 296 MB
Free 952 MB
Utilization 24 %

Virtual Memory:
Total 2047 MB
Used 49 MB
Free 1998 MB
Utilization 2 %


--------[ BIOS ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BIOS Type: Award
Award BIOS Type: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message: WinFast 760GXK8MB Series 475WP124 092605
System BIOS Date: 09/26/05
Video BIOS Date: 03/09/05


--------[ Windows Video - RADEON 9200 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Description: RADEON 9200
Driver ID: ati2mtag\0
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5941&SUBSYS_20031002&REV_01\4&1C526AC9&0&0108


--------[ Windows Video - RADEON 9200 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Description: RADEON 9200
Driver ID: ati2mtag\0
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5961&SUBSYS_20021002&REV_01\4&1C526AC9&0&0008


--------[ Windows Video - RADEON 9200 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Description: RADEON 9200
Driver ID: ati2mtag\1
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5941&SUBSYS_20031002&REV_01\4&1C526AC9&0&0108


--------[ Windows Video - RADEON 9200 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Description: RADEON 9200
Driver ID: ati2mtag\1
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5961&SUBSYS_20021002&REV_01\4&1C526AC9&0&0008


--------[ Windows Video - RADEON 9200 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Description: RADEON 9200
Driver ID: ati2mtag\2
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5941&SUBSYS_20031002&REV_01\4&1C526AC9&0&0108


--------[ Windows Video - RADEON 9200 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Description: RADEON 9200
Driver ID: ati2mtag\2
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5961&SUBSYS_20021002&REV_01\4&1C526AC9&0&0008


--------[ Windows Video - RADEON 9200 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Description: RADEON 9200
Driver ID: ati2mtag\3
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5941&SUBSYS_20031002&REV_01\4&1C526AC9&0&0108


--------[ Windows Video - RADEON 9200 ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Description: RADEON 9200
Driver ID: ati2mtag\3
Installed Drivers: ati2dvag
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5961&SUBSYS_20021002&REV_01\4&1C526AC9&0&0008


--------[ PCI / AGP Video ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Video Adapter SiS 86C202


--------[ Monitor - Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB] ]----------------------------------------------------------------------

Monitor Name: Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB]
Monitor ID: OEC7A75
Manufacture Date: Week 17 / 2001
Serial Number: 11171
Max. Visible Display Size: 32 cm x 24 cm (15.7")
Picture Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Gamma: 3.20
DPMS Mode Support: Standby, Suspend, Active-Off


--------[ Desktop ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Device Technology: Raster Display
Resolution: 1152 x 864
Color Depth: 32-bit
Color Planes: 1
Font Resolution: 96 dpi
Pixel Width / Height: 36 / 36
Pixel Diagonal: 51
Vertical Refresh Rate: 70 Hz
Desktop Wallpaper: C:\Documents and Settings\SySoP\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Wallpaper1.bmp

Combo-Box Animation: Enabled
Drop Shadow Effect: Disabled
Flat Menu Effect: Enabled
Font Smoothing: Enabled
Full Window Dragging: Enabled
Gradient Window Title Bars: Enabled
Hide Menu Access Keys: Disabled
Hot Tracking Effect: Enabled
Icon Title Wrapping: Enabled
List-Box Smooth Scrolling: Enabled
Menu Animation: Enabled
Menu Fade Effect: Enabled
Minimize/Restore Animation: Enabled
Mouse Cursor Shadow: Enabled
Selection Fade Effect: Enabled
ShowSounds Accessibility Feature: Disabled
ToolTip Animation: Enabled
ToolTip Fade Effect: Enabled
Windows Plus! Extension: Disabled


--------[ ACPI ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AUTHENTICAMD_-_X86_FAMILY_15_MODEL_44 AMD Sempron™ Processor 2500+
FIXEDBUTTON ACPI Fixed Feature Button
PNP0000 Programmable Interrupt Controller
PNP0100 System Timer
PNP0200 DMA Controller
PNP0303 101/102-Key or MS Natural Keyboard
PNP0400 Parallel Port
PNP0501 16550A-compatible UART Serial Port
PNP0501 16550A-compatible UART Serial Port
PNP0700 Floppy Disk Controller
PNP0800 PC Speaker
PNP0A03 PCI Bus
PNP0B00 Real-Time Clock
PNP0C01 System Board Extension
PNP0C02 Motherboard Resources
PNP0C04 Numeric Data Processor
PNP0C08 ACPI Driver/BIOS
PNP0C0B Fan
PNP0C0C Power Button
PNP0C0E Sleep Button
PNP0F13 Logitech PS/2 Port Mouse
THERMALZONE ACPI Thermal Zone

hope this helps

btw here's the CPU-Z ID number (i can;t find the link - ID : 43860)











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BTW i have Samsung RAM with the heatspreader /tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
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You placed a lot of personal info on your post, you may want to edit it before the Spam/Search engine spiders pick it up...

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!!! New udate !!!

Swapping out my shite Samsung RAM for for Kingston.

What would be best... the ValueRam

KVR400X64C3A/512 512MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL3 (3-3-3) DIMM

or the Hyper X
HX3200UL/512 512MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL2 2-2-2-5-1 2.6V

both fit in my mobo and are compat with the Sempron 2500+

need some suggestions ASAP as I have to place the order within the next hour.

Thanks again!!!

Fodd3r

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 10/19/2005 03:58 AM
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!!! New udate !!!

Swapping out my [content edited] Samsung RAM for for Kingston.

What would be best...  the ValueRam

KVR400X64C3A/512  512MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL3 (3-3-3) DIMM

or the Hyper X
HX3200UL/512  512MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL2 2-2-2-5-1 2.6V

both fit in my mobo and are compat with the Sempron 2500+

need some suggestions ASAP as I have to place the order within the next hour. 

Thanks again!!!

Fodd3r

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Deff hyper X. I use the same stuff. My OC is 275FSB, CPU 2ghz CPU FSB 2ghz. Memory is PC3200 but OCed DDR467 fsb225 now if I havn't said it before. Hmm I wonder how good we can make your OC's what you got to try is to lower your HTT since you can't lower the multiplyer. That shouldn't be a problem. Disable spread spectrum if you have that. You don't need to change around volts. Make sure to use a hard drive that you have only a OS on. Its annoying to reinstall a OS that you have all your stuff on. Keep your timeings high at 1st like look up model numbers of hyper x's and make your timeings according to model speed. Say you get upto PC4000 change the timings to that. Prob at 1st lower your MEM fsb to 166mhz.

Keep on trying to get the board fsb higher like I said and this time you shouldn't have a prob. I don't know whats up with my board but I guess since its based off of the Nforce 3 250 then I can go upto HTT 1200 or something like that. Prob higher, thats about 2000mhz fsb for the processor. I don't know if your board can do that or not so keep the HTT lower below 800 like 200 or 400 then try and OC it. What kind of errors are you getting anyways when you OC thats limiting you again? If a fsb doesn't work try another. Keep checking your limits and tell us what your doing, that should help atleast I hope so. Just remember your limits. And do some reserch on your system. Now I know hyper X's can do DDR533 at 250fsb but thats pushing its limits to the max. It can take it tho.
 10/20/2005 01:48 AM
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Well, I think it's the crappy mobo I have (FoxxConn with SiS chipset)

In bios, the HTT can be either 400/600/800 Mhz. current set to 600, everytime it try to set it to 800 and save the changes, the bios doesn't like it (constant beep after POST)

The FSB for the CPU itself can ONLY be set from 200-232 Mhz (in Bios) and using the real-time Bios flash program (Superstep) whenever I change the FSB below 200 Mhz, I get warnings (running underclocked) left right and center

I have posted new CPU-Z screenies on the AMD Processor support forums.

http://upload.sysxtreme.com/0.X/0.4014856/new_ram.JPG' ">http://upload.sysxtreme.com/0.X/0.4014856/new_ram.JPG

BTW... the RAM that was ordered (dumbass sales guy /mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /> ) was only the ValueRam, model: KVR400X64C3A with timings of 2.5-3-3 (two 512 sticks, 1 GB total), not the HyperX (not gonna wait an extra week for special order from Kingston I need to play my EiB and F.E.A.R =P)

SO... I'm still at a loss... wasn't able to get the CPU up any higher. Think its time for a new board, setting on either a GigaBit or a EPoX (both with Nforce4 chipsets)

The ONLY thing I haven't done yet is check ASYNC settngs for transfer rates.

Will post those settings next time I boot the PC.

Thanx again for the help PPL.

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Fodd3r

 10/20/2005 02:26 AM
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QUOTE(Fodd3r @ Oct 19 2005, 11:48 PM)Well, I think it's the crappy mobo I have (FoxxConn with SiS chipset)

In bios, the HTT can be either 400/600/800 Mhz.  current set to 600, everytime it try to set it to 800 and save the changes, the bios doesn't like it (constant beep after POST)

The FSB for the CPU itself can ONLY be set from 200-232 Mhz (in Bios) and using the real-time Bios flash program (Superstep) whenever I change the FSB below 200 Mhz, I get warnings (running underclocked) left right and center

I have posted new CPU-Z screenies on the AMD Processor support forums.

http://upload.sysxtreme.com/0.X/0.4014856/new_ram.JPG' ">http://upload.sysxtreme.com/0.X/0.4014856/new_ram.JPG

BTW... the RAM that was ordered (dumbass sales guy  /mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /> ) was only the ValueRam, model: KVR400X64C3A with timings of 2.5-3-3 (two 512 sticks, 1 GB total), not the HyperX (not gonna wait an extra week for special order from Kingston I need to play my EiB and F.E.A.R  =P)

SO... I'm still at a loss... wasn't able to get the CPU up any higher.  Think its time for a new board, setting on either a GigaBit or a EPoX (both with Nforce4 chipsets)

The ONLY thing I haven't done yet is check ASYNC settngs for transfer rates.

Will post those settings next time I boot the PC.

Thanx again for the help PPL.

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Fodd3r
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232fsb on the board! Wow thats scarry crap. O_o Sounds like cheap old junk to me. Yeap your board is limiting you. Go with a gigabite not anything else. They are made on perpous for overclocking. My boards chipset goes upto 455fsb max but at 275fsb now OCed. Defalt is 200fsb. Like most gigabyte boards its 455fsb on the settings is possible. Thats like a no limit for me. I have alot more options on my motherboard then you did I see. XD That board you have wasn't made for OCing at all. I use to be frustrated about OCing. If you get a gigabyte board I can help you better because gigabyte boards OC pritty much the same, I bought all this stuff to get some tight performance. Ya can OC like me or better if you get the right board. Your welcome and good luck on OCing. Tell us when ya get that new stuff. If I see ya around with it, I'll help ya OC your system. *Smirk*
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