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 01/05/2008 05:22 PM
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stanggt00
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My system specs are in my signature. I am reinstalling Win XP and was discussing the use of the CPU driver and Dual core optimizer at install on another forum. Some people say use both, others say use just the CPU driver and yet others say dont use either one. I figured I should come to the source for an answer to this one.

From what I see, the CPU driver is not for the OS to be able to utilize both CPU's, but for it to utlilize the Power Now feature. I could care less about lower power consumption etc... and would prefer the CPU to be operating at full speed all of the time.

As for the Dual Core Optimizer, alot of people stated they had no performance gains when using it, and recommended I do not use it unless I had issues.

So what's the real verdict here. Which drivers / utilities should I install with the fresh reinstall of Win XP? Thanks in advance for your inputs.

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 01/07/2008 02:24 PM
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stanggt00
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Wow, 26 views and not a single reply. I thought this would be the place to get some advice but I guess not.

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2 x 1 Gig OCZ EL DDR PC-4000 Gold Gamer eXtreme XTC Edition (9/10 divider)
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Radeon X850XT PCIexpress (560 Core 580 Mem) (8800 GTS 512MB coming soon)
Soundblaster X-fi Extreme Music (works well for games too [IMG][/IMG] )
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 01/07/2008 02:50 PM
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Edgemeal
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You don't have to install the AMD CPU driver or the Optimizer, I wouldn't install anything unless it's needed.

FWIW, I've been running a s939 X2 system for over 2 years. I use WinXP with the power features enabled, I have the AMD CPU driver and MS Hotfix (KB896256) installed, everything runs great and stable as a rock.

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 01/09/2008 06:20 PM
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Thats what I have been hearing from most everyone else as well. I ran 3dmark06 before and after each install of the driver and optimizer and there was absolutely no increase in the CPU performance bench mark. I dont know about PCmark, all I really cared about was the video portion from the 8800GTS install, lol. Thanks for the reply though.

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DFI Lanparty UT NF4 Ultra D bios 704-2BT
Athlon64 Opteron 170 CCBBE 0615EPMW
2 x 1 Gig OCZ EL DDR PC-4000 Gold Gamer eXtreme XTC Edition (9/10 divider)
Raid0 WD raptors (2x36G)
Radeon X850XT PCIexpress (560 Core 580 Mem) (8800 GTS 512MB coming soon)
Soundblaster X-fi Extreme Music (works well for games too [IMG][/IMG] )
OCZ GameXStream 600 Watt
 03/05/2008 06:49 PM
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AFAIK the "dual core optimizer" is not meant to be installed on Opteron based systems. It's just for Athlon X2 based systems.

If you check the AMD website for OPTERON drivers:
http://www.amd.com/de-de/Proce...0,,30_182_871,00.html
(The links under "AMD Opteron Processor") You won't find the "dual core optimizer".

PLEASE read the annotations for the drivers before you install everything you can find just because someone said so.



AMD Athlontm 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Utilities & Updates

AMD Dual-Core Optimizer - The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter) instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter (TSC) is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications may experience on dual-core processor systems, by periodically adjusting the core time-stamp-counters, so that they are synchronized.


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AMD Athlontm 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (x86 and x64 exe) 1.3.2.16 - Allows the system to automatically adjust the CPU speed, voltage and power combination that match the instantaneous user performance need. Download this Setup Installation program (EXE) to automatically update all the files necessary for installation. This package is recommended for users whom desire a graphical user interface for installation. This .EXE driver is a user friendly localized software installation of the driver designed for end-users. This driver supports AMD Athlontm 64 X2 Dual Core processors on Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 x84 and x64 Editions.


Just some sections taken from www.amd.com with copy&paste to think about.

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Edited: 03/05/2008 at 06:56 PM by derGhostrider
 03/07/2008 07:53 PM
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tyreman
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IF you had an opteron the only one to me you would need would be this one:

AMD Opterontm Processor with AMD PowerNow!tm Technology Driver Version 1.3.2.0053 for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 (x86 and x64) - Allows the system to automatically adjust the CPU speed, voltage and power combination to match the instantaneous user performance need. This package is a user friendly localized software installation of the driver designed for end-users. This driver supports single, dual, and quad-core AMD Opterontm processors on Windows XP SP2 and Windows Server 2003 SP2 x86 and x64 Editions

This is a 2007 release.

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