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 09/09/2004 06:49 AM
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I had a problem with graphic intensive programs on my dual 242 machine (system hangs after running these programs about 20 mins), but now I feel everything's fine by doing these:
- lowering HT-AGP link to 600MHz - See AMD-8151 errata
- creating "LargePageMinimum" key in the registry - See MS KB-270715

My system
Tyan Tiger K8W (2.02bios)
2x Opteron 242
2x 512 Corsair PC3200ECC-REg
ATI All-In-Wonder 9000 PRO (8.1.2 AMD AGP tunnel / 4.8 catalyst / AGP 4X / FastWrites on)
And *Win2k SP4*

I tried turning AGP off, turning fast writes off, changing aperture size, etc. but these were not the case.

Though in KB-270715 (Last Reviewed:11/13/2003 (3.0)), they say this is a problem typically with Win2k / Athlon or Duron / Geforce 256 or G400 systems, and I'm running Win2k, they lists also winxps (home/pro) in the same KB of Japanese version (Last Reviewed:2004/05/11 (4.0) -- why revised only in Japanese?). So it isn't necessarily "out of date" issue, I think. Someone experiencing AGP problems on WinXP please try this stuff.

There seems to be much Tyan/ATI mismatching problems, but I'm thinking part of these may be because this KB article is popular to nVidia guys.

I hope AMD adds "Microsoft® Windows® 2000 Patch for AGP Applications" to Opteron drivers category.
 09/09/2004 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (cieux64 @ Sep 9 2004, 12:49 PM) I had a problem with graphic intensive programs on my dual 242 machine (system hangs after running these programs about 20 mins), but now I feel everything's fine by doing these:
- lowering HT-AGP link to 600MHz - See AMD-8151 errata
- creating "LargePageMinimum" key in the registry - See MS KB-270715

My system
Tyan Tiger K8W (2.02bios)
2x Opteron 242
2x 512 Corsair PC3200ECC-REg
ATI All-In-Wonder 9000 PRO (8.1.2 AMD AGP tunnel / 4.8 catalyst / AGP 4X / FastWrites on)
And *Win2k SP4*

I tried turning AGP off, turning fast writes off, changing aperture size, etc. but these were not the case.

Though in KB-270715 (Last Reviewed:11/13/2003 (3.0)), they say this is a problem typically with Win2k / Athlon or Duron / Geforce 256 or G400 systems, and I'm running Win2k, they lists also winxps (home/pro) in the same KB of Japanese version (Last Reviewed:2004/05/11 (4.0) -- why revised only in Japanese?). So it isn't necessarily "out of date" issue, I think. Someone experiencing AGP problems on WinXP please try this stuff.

There seems to be much Tyan/ATI mismatching problems, but I'm thinking part of these may be because this KB article is popular to nVidia guys.

I hope AMD adds "Microsoft® Windows® 2000 Patch for AGP Applications" to Opteron drivers category.
Ever tried to use WinXP?
Or: Why don't you use Windows XP?

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  Ghostrider

·CPUs - 2*Opteron 246
·Mainboard - Tyan Thunder K8W S2885ANRF
·RAM - 4*Corsair TwinX1024RE-3200LL (4GB, 8*512MB, DDR400, 2-3-2)
·Graphics - HIS IceQ-II X800Pro
·HDD - Western Digital Raptor WD740GD, 74GB, 10k
·RAID - 3Ware 7850, 64bit PCI, 8chn hardware RAID
·RAID-HDDs - 5*WD800JB
·Optical - 1*SlimSize CD-ROM; 1*NEC7441 DVD-RW
·Sound - Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro

 09/09/2004 04:48 PM
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QUOTE (derGhostrider @ Sep 9 2004, 09:26 AM)Ever tried to use WinXP?
Or: Why don't you use Windows XP?
It's just my budget problem , derGhostrider, and, reading posts on Tyan/Radeon pair in some forums, I can't decide to bet on WinXP or a new nVidia board.
 09/10/2004 05:27 AM
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QUOTE (cieux64 @ Sep 9 2004, 10:48 PM) QUOTE (derGhostrider @ Sep 9 2004, 09:26 AM)Ever tried to use WinXP?
Or: Why don't you use Windows XP?
It's just my budget problem , derGhostrider, and, reading posts on Tyan/Radeon pair in some forums, I can't decide to bet on WinXP or a new nVidia board.
I see...
Well, I had no problems with my R9700Pro (well, the card died but that was not the mistake of the mainboard) and my HIS IceQ II X800Pro runs perfect on the Thunder K8W S2885.
Maybe I have just luck running that card on that mainboard...

I found out that running the CPU->AGP HT link at 800MHz OR the CPU-0 -> CPU-1 HT link at 1GHz may cause lock-ups in 3Dmark2001 and 3Dmark2003. I am investigating this problem. 3Dmark2003 tend to stop during a CPU-test which may point at the CPU-CPU HT-link... Both tests (2001 and 2003) run perfect at the default settings for the HT-Links. ... But I'd like to run at highest possible settings - of course.
You mentioned: "- lowering HT-AGP link to 600MHz - See AMD-8151 errata" ... well, at first everything was fine even at 800MHz HT-AGP link speed. It's a little bit weired.
I did not turn fastwrites or sidebandadressing off. The HT-Link seems to be the key for stability.

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Regards,
  Ghostrider

·CPUs - 2*Opteron 246
·Mainboard - Tyan Thunder K8W S2885ANRF
·RAM - 4*Corsair TwinX1024RE-3200LL (4GB, 8*512MB, DDR400, 2-3-2)
·Graphics - HIS IceQ-II X800Pro
·HDD - Western Digital Raptor WD740GD, 74GB, 10k
·RAID - 3Ware 7850, 64bit PCI, 8chn hardware RAID
·RAID-HDDs - 5*WD800JB
·Optical - 1*SlimSize CD-ROM; 1*NEC7441 DVD-RW
·Sound - Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro

 09/10/2004 12:37 PM
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QUOTE (derGhostrider @ Sep 10 2004, 01:27 AM)The HT-Link seems to be the key for stability.

I'll second that. With 800MHz speed I got heavy image corruption, then the display flipped vertically when I ran a d3d game demo. Lock-ups (no corruption) remained after lowering the HT-AGP link, and I did the registry tweak. ...this may be needed only on Win2k.

P.S. X800pro on the Thunder... I envy you hmm.. if I were not using the TV feature of my AIW, it would be easier to migrate to a new graphics card...
 09/11/2004 06:43 AM
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QUOTE (cieux64 @ Sep 10 2004, 06:37 PM) QUOTE (derGhostrider @ Sep 10 2004, 01:27 AM)The HT-Link seems to be the key for stability.

I'll second that. With 800MHz speed I got heavy image corruption, then the display flipped vertically when I ran a d3d game demo. Lock-ups (no corruption) remained after lowering the HT-AGP link, and I did the registry tweak. ...this may be needed only on Win2k.

P.S. X800pro on the Thunder... I envy you hmm.. if I were not using the TV feature of my AIW, it would be easier to migrate to a new graphics card...
*fg* ... well... haven't you heard of the AIW X800XT yet?

I am still waiting for the Sappihre Toxic X800XT PE... I bought the X800Pro for a friend and told him that he will get the card as soon as the Toxic is availabe - but there is no Toxic x800XT anywhere! Well... the PRO is really nice. Fast enough for my needs and all games that I play.

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Regards,
  Ghostrider

·CPUs - 2*Opteron 246
·Mainboard - Tyan Thunder K8W S2885ANRF
·RAM - 4*Corsair TwinX1024RE-3200LL (4GB, 8*512MB, DDR400, 2-3-2)
·Graphics - HIS IceQ-II X800Pro
·HDD - Western Digital Raptor WD740GD, 74GB, 10k
·RAID - 3Ware 7850, 64bit PCI, 8chn hardware RAID
·RAID-HDDs - 5*WD800JB
·Optical - 1*SlimSize CD-ROM; 1*NEC7441 DVD-RW
·Sound - Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro

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