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Topic Title: [sarcasm]Congratulations to AMD/ATi[/sarcasm]
Topic Summary: on Linux video drivers
Created On: 03/16/2008 12:22 AM
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 03/16/2008 12:22 AM
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Megadeth
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Thanks to AMD for an amazing set of Linux drivers. The latest not only cause artifacts, they cause my computer lockup every time I restart the graphical interface possibly to start another interface or for another reason. I have had it up to here with these drivers, and tons of other Linux users have too. Every time a new one comes out, it's like one step forward and two steps backward. If it adds features, then it kills stability. If it fixes something, it breaks something else. Really, this is absurd. What's everyone else's experiences with AMD's Linux drivers?
 03/16/2008 12:45 AM
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I feel your pain. I remember the ATI driver with SUSE 10.1, and it seems everytime there was an update to SUSE, it killed the driver. After about the sixth kill, the ATI driver refused to install again no matter what I tried. That's one of the reasons I went NVIDIA when it came time for my hardware upgrade.

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 03/16/2008 11:06 AM
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vsingh
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Yeah, every time you upgrade the kernel, the driver gets killed and you have to install the new one for your new kernel. But I could always install the new one perfectly fine on my old rig, which had an NVIDIA card in it.

AMD/ATI need to really catch up to NVIDIA on drivers for open-source OS's.
 03/16/2008 11:49 PM
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That's it. I'm done with ATi. I'm not dealing with crap anymore. I updated drivers and the issues just got worse. My computer has frozen up over five times in the past half hour. This is absurd.

Edited: 03/16/2008 at 11:50 PM by Megadeth
 03/17/2008 08:05 PM
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vsingh
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Man that stinks. My laptop has ATI drivers, and it never freezes or has any issues. It must be because my laptop's Mobility 200M card is quite old, and there are no newer drivers for it.

See, the problem with closed-source drivers is that they have to be either reprogrammed or ported over, so the unreliability increases right there.
 03/17/2008 11:50 PM
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My experience has been rather decent. They install easily and are simple to configure. I do occasionally get random X lockups, but I cannot tell if that is the drivers or the fact that my GPU might be flaky. It had its fan die on it recently and I don't know how cooked the GPU got before I shut the machine off. The fan was making grinding noises and spinning at probably 50 rpm and had been doing so for some length of time between five minutes and two hours. I'd quit working to go to the gym and it was fine beforehand but was making grinding noises once I got back. I put a new heatsink on it with a bigger fan and it seems okay but I'm getting some random lockups and I can't pin it on the newly-upgraded drivers or the dead fan.

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 03/18/2008 12:05 AM
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Megadeth
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Can you post your Xorg.conf? Let's see if it might be the configs.
 03/18/2008 08:07 AM
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Here you go:


# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen 0 "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "DELL 2001FP"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[1]"
Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic Video Card"
Driver "vesa"
BusID "PCI:4:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Driver "fglrx"
Option "DesktopSetup" "horizontal"
BusID "PCI:4:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "aticonfig-Device[1]"
Driver "fglrx"
BusID "PCI:4:0:0"
Screen 1
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Generic Video Card"
Monitor "DELL 2001FP"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
Device "aticonfig-Device[0]"
Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[1]"
Device "aticonfig-Device[1]"
Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[1]"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection


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 03/20/2008 03:54 AM
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davozz
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I've put ATi on hold now for Linux, too hard, Linux is going point and click not vi edit and save.....c<control> <alt> <backspace> and hope repeat repeat...

On Microsoft I prefer ATi, and glad they seem to have caught nvidia again....

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 03/29/2008 08:44 PM
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Megadeth
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Linux will always be a blend of point-and-click and command-line. Remember that.
 03/30/2008 09:53 AM
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vsingh
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Yeah you're right. Even if you're using Ubuntu, I sometimes have to use the command line to get stuff working. It's really not hard at all though, nothing scary about it.
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