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Topic Title: "Brand New" Phenom 9750?
Topic Summary: What's in the box?
Created On: 10/03/2008 07:30 AM
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 10/03/2008 07:30 AM
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techview
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First some background: I just picked up an opened box but otherwise "brand new and unused" Phenom 9750 on eBay. When I received it, not only was it opened up, but there was thermal grease on both the heatsink and the CPU, plus the heatsink, although seemingly unused had no copper heatpipes. The seller now admits that he applied the thermal grease then "discovered" the 3750 wouldn't work with his mobo. He still claims, however that it is still both new and unused. I'm about to submit this to the eBay "resolution center, but I want to validate some facts first. Here are my questions:
1) Stock AMD heatsinks all come with a square/rectangular (or is it circular) patch of thermal compound already spread on them. The CPUs themselves come with a clean surface. Probably the only way the CPU could have gotten significant compound residue on it is if the CPU was inserted into the AM2/AM2+ socket, secured by closing the lever and then the heatsink was clamped down on top of it. In other words, it would have to have been installed on the mobo.
2) I haven't been able to find any reference in the AMD documentation, but doesn't the stock heatsink that is shipped with the 9750 have copper heatpipes?

As an aside, the pins look intact, so my guess is that the seller tried to run this CPU on a AM2 (vs AM2+) motherboard. What damage could he have done to it?

Thanks for your help in advance.
 10/03/2008 09:18 PM
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1. yes, the only way to get thermal grease on the cpu is by placing thermal grease on the cpu. the hsf does come with a thermal pad. no cpu that i know of comes already attached to the hsf. it is possible that his computer didn't even boot with it on, so he could be telling the truth in that it was unused.
2. the one on mine didn't. i got a basic aluminum box cooler that apparently is recommended and re-branded by AMD: www.avc.com.tw/products/Z7LB00C.htm. however, i had the vendor install it for me, so maybe it's one he just had lying around.
other users have also reported that they expected the heatpipe model, but it seems to be random. there's no way to tell which hsf you'll get with which chip in which country. interestingly, the generic i got appears to perform better than the heatpipe one endorsed by amd: www.frostytech.com.

were you expecting this one: www.avc.com.tw/products/Z7UB408.htm
i haven't heard of anyone who got one with their chip.

it won't hurt the cpu to run am2<->am2+. the + is just which version of hypertransport it is using.

cavat emptor. i use www.pricewatch.com.

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