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 04/25/2011 09:17 PM
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ajoamd1999
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Hello all,

Just looking for some expert advice. I built a machine posted below in my signiture. I would like to replace the AMD factory heat-sink and or add an intake fan to my computer. I don't OC and I have it in the man cave in the basement. The ambient temp down here 15 - 16 C. My CPU idles at about 31 C which I'm happy with. At almost full load it jumps up to about 50 C and max about 57 C which doesn't seem too bad.

I'm not planning on OC'ing but would like to run it a little cooler. Also, once it's ready I will move it upstairs in place of my old "main computer". I love the AMD factory lever/clamp system for the heat-sink. Installing it was such a breeze and so much better than my old Pentium 4 with the 4 locking screws (what a pain!). Do any after-market coolers use this same lever/clamp design that would cool better than the stock heat-sink? I would love to utilize the factory clamp system if possible. I will probably install an intake fan, as of right now, it only has a 120 mm exhaust fan. One thing I like and would like to keep is the fact that it is so quiet and would like to keep it that way.

Would a large fan above my CPU make the most sense for cooling the CPU (See picture below). Without out turning my system into the lockheed wind tunnel.

Any and all advice is welcome and appreciated, thanks!

P.S., I have cool n' quiet disabled and the CPU fan and exhaust fan set to turbo in BIOS. Which is weird because the exhaust fan never goes above 900 RPM

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-AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 core
-ASUS MOBO M4A87TD
-EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi)
-Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z
-Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB
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 04/25/2011 09:19 PM
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ajoamd1999
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appariently I don't know how to attach a picture to my message either. Sigh........I'm hopeless.

Here's the URL link to the picture.

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/...hotos.aspx?ID=1913&P=9

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-EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi)
-Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z
-Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB
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 04/25/2011 09:27 PM
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With that very low ambient temp, you should not be running 57c under load.
Most of us here in the forum try not to go above 55c under load, even though the max operating temp is 61c.
The stock AMD heatsink/fan does an adequate job on a non-overclocked CPU.
So, I would have to say that you have a case airflow/cooling problem.
And since you plan to eventually overclock, a good after market CPU cooler is highly recommended.
The Arctic Freezer 64 Pro (rev. 1) uses the same clamp system as the the stock AMD units.
However, it's been replaced by rev. 2, so I don't know if it's still available or not.

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 04/25/2011 11:08 PM
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Hi ajoamd 1999.

Since you want to use the AMD mounts there are a few that do the job, since your case has top fans

you can have the cooler blowing up or out the back your choice.

How big a cooler you want & how much money you want to spend have a look on Newegg, here's are a few.

TX3.

Zalman Performa.

Corsair.

Arctic Cooloing ACFZ13.

Arctic Freezer Pro7.

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 04/25/2011 11:38 PM
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Thanks for your help so far guys. Do you know the actual name/model number of that clamp style for AM3's by chance? I have g.skill RAM with the larger heat-spreaders and I am concerned about getting a heat sink that won't interfere with them.

Maybe I should just try to remove, clean and reinstall my AMD stock heat-sink? I'm only going to run it at stock speed (not OC'd) and just want to bring the temps down some. Would turning the "turbo" feature off help? My mobo temp is around 32 C and CPU 30 C so maybe an intake fan for more air flow? Of course right now I have the case side off completely?

Nemesis, I see you have g.skill RAM also. Was your heat-sink a problem to install with your RAM (Do they have the "red" heat spreaders on them?) because I've heard that can cause a problem mounting after market heat sinks?

I was encoding a Blu-ray movie tonight and running all 6 cores at 90% plus and the hottest it got was 50 C after 45 minutes of encoding? *****, don't you just hate computers sometimes? I should know better then to bother with these things as I'm an Electronics Technician and I beat my head against a wall to fix RF/Radio problems at work. Only to go home and monkey with computer stuff. However, this is my first AMD build and I couldn't be happier coming from a Pentium 4 w/HT. My last/final Intel build ever. I think AMD is as good if not better and for much cheaper.

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-ASUS MOBO M4A87TD
-EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi)
-Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z
-Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB
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-LITE-ON iHBS212 Blu-Ray burner
 04/26/2011 01:29 AM
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Yes, my G. Skill Flares have very tall heatsinks on them.
However, it doesn't matter, I use the H50 water cooling system for my CPU.
I have the Arctic Freezer 64 Pro (rev. 1) in my backup comp.
And run G. Skill memory in that comp with tall heatsinks, it's definitely a tight fit.

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Corsair H70 Core Hydro
ASUS Crosshair V Formula
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 04/27/2011 12:08 AM
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Here is a link to an online reseller that appears to have the arctic cooler freezer 64 rev. 1 for sale.. To be sure I would contact their sales department to verify that they haven't updated their inventory to the rev. 2 but not their website... I have used them in the past and have had pretty good service and quick processing.. Hope this helps because I use the Freezer 64 rev. 1 and have nothing but good things to say about it.. I run my 955 BE OC'd to 3.8Ghz and my temps never top 46-48C, and that was during a 5 hour stress test.. So a stock 1090T should run nice and cool.. http://www.coolerguys.com/840556058274.html

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System Specs:
Motherboard: ASUS M4A78-E
Memory: 8 Gig (4 x 2Gig) G-Skill 1066 DDR2
CPU: AMD Phenom II x 4 955 BE @3.8Ghz
Cooling: AC Freezer 64 cooler
PSU: Corsair 750W
GPU: Gigabyte GV-R489UD-1GD HD 4890
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 04/27/2011 02:08 PM
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hwt i have and phenom2 processor my cpu automatically stops working when i am working on pc.
Isit co of heating of processor or some other reason ...
 05/04/2011 02:48 PM
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Hey everyone thanks again for all your help. I decided to go the middle of the road and bought a cooler master hyper TX3 heat-sink. I am very happy with it. It uses the AM3 mount system so installation was a snap. I used a credit card and spead AC5 thinly and evenly to the heat sinks surface.

Ambient down in the man cave is about 16C so pretty cool to start with. Here's the stats. I run it at stock speed but I may concider OC'ing because it's running very chilly now

Stock Cooler:

Idle: MB 30 C
CPU 32 C

Load: MB 34 C
CPU 56 C

Hyper TX3:

Idle: MB 25 C
CPU 29 C

Load: MB 27 C
CPU 43 C

I was running Prime95 on the Large FFT (maximum heat mode for 45 minutes). It's a whole 13 C cooler with the new heat sink. It's whisper quiet and runs over 1000 RPM slower than the stock cooler. Needless to say for $20 I am really, really happy. Just wanted to share.

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-AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 core
-ASUS MOBO M4A87TD
-EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi)
-Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z
-Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB
-G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
-LITE-ON iHBS212 Blu-Ray burner
 05/04/2011 06:47 PM
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Hi ajoamd1999.

That's good to see, happy to help.

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