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Topic Title: Phenom Numbering
Topic Summary: What is the name after Phenom 9900 ?
Created On: 12/20/2007 08:42 AM
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 12/20/2007 08:42 AM
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Xajel
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We all know that AMD numbered the 2.2GHz version as Phenom 9500, then 2.3GHz as Phenom 9600, while the failed to hit 2.4GHz was meant to be called 9700

so

2.2 = 9500
2.3 = 9600
2.4 = 9700
2.5 = 9800
2.6 = 9900

then we are sure their will be 2.7, 2.8 and even 3.0 and 3.2

I hope they don't name it 10000, or what ever that make them more than 4 chars !!
 12/20/2007 10:02 AM
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i believe they will just add 50 to the end ie 9550,9650

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 12/20/2007 01:31 PM
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Ummm, I thought those would be the FX models...but maybe they changed their release outline again...

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 12/20/2007 01:54 PM
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X1NN0 and so forth.

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 12/20/2007 04:02 PM
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Ahhh yeah I guess so. What happens when 45nm parts start arriving and we have an overlap of 65nm and 45nm parts on the market? Could get confusing.

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 12/21/2007 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by: brianj1175

i believe they will just add 50 to the end ie 9550,9650


9550 & 9650 already reserved for Error free versions of 9500 & 9600

and if they go for 9900, only 9950 will be left...



Originally posted by: PorscheRacer14

Ummm, I thought those would be the FX models...but maybe they changed their release outline again...


FX will keep thier names even for Phenoms ( at least this is what we know )




Originally posted by: Overmind

X1NN0 and so forth.



this is still 5 chars and yes it's long

I wonder why they keep the last char untouched for this numbering !!

but changing that will make saying it harder




Originally posted by: PorscheRacer14

Ahhh yeah I guess so. What happens when 45nm parts start arriving and we have an overlap of 65nm and 45nm parts on the market? Could get confusing.



that's if they didn't change the numbering for moving to 45nm !! and they don't plan a faster than 9900 version before 45nm...

and if thats true ( no faster than 9900 before 45nm ) this will be bad, very bad !!
 12/21/2007 05:53 AM
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and if thats true ( no faster than 9900 before 45nm ) this will be bad, very bad !!


Very bad? I doubt it, it's not like everyone who orders a PC from HP/DELL/walks into a BestBuy/etc,etc buys the fastest and most expensive PC.

Seeing how the higher speed bin parts are already 125+ Watts I doubt AMD will make anything much faster on 65nm unless they found/find a tweak in their 65nm process that allows more MHz at the same or lower wattages. I just hope their 45nm plans go OK without a hitch.

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 12/21/2007 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Edgemeal

and if thats true ( no faster than 9900 before 45nm ) this will be bad, very bad !!




Very bad? I doubt it, it's not like everyone who orders a PC from HP/DELL/walks into a BestBuy/etc,etc buys the fastest and most expensive PC.



Seeing how the higher speed bin parts are already 125+ Watts I doubt AMD will make anything much faster on 65nm unless they found/find a tweak in their 65nm process that allows more MHz at the same or lower wattages. I just hope their 45nm plans go OK without a hitch.



that's exactly what I mean...

if AMD will not produce any Chip faster than 9900 ( 2.6 ) in 65nm, this will mean 2.6+ clocks will be 45nm... this is 2 times bad

1- AMD's 65nm will need urget tweaks in order to enable faster clocks and lower watts, I'm assuming 125W will be good for 3.0+ Quad clocks not for less, I know QuadCore needs more power than Dual Core, but stating that AMD already had good experiece with 65nm process they will be able to tweak it, the current problem is just with the new K10 die as this die is harder to deal with than the old K9 ( duo to the larger silicon area + transistor count ), so they need some time...
2- 45nm will not come till 2H08, and for me I'm expecting Q4 as ramp timeframe that's only if everything goes ok with 45nm... a 2.6GHz Phenom is hardly stands these days infront of C2 Quads, and AMD surly need more clocks even today not talking about more than 6 months in best cases !!
 12/21/2007 09:14 AM
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Why it is named 9500, 9600, 9700,....... What does it mean?

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