 11/15/2008 12:58 AM
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Liqourice
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Originally posted by: winderic
I tried to do some research about the backplate, think normaly it come with the board? I found the back layout of the board, there is a silver plate thingy, not sure if there the backplate you mentioning.
This is my first build computer, i still got a lot things need to learn...![]()
This photo i found at newegg but is too small
That's a backplate yes and this motherboard will hold quite a bit of weight on the cooler. Don't know how much, haven't checked in the manual if it says that, but I don't think 800-900 grammes should be a problem.
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CPU: Phenom X4 9850 BE
Memory: Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
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11/15/2008 01:21 AM
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winderic
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Ah,thats good then, now i only need to know which cooler to go for.
After comparing AC freezer 64 pro and TT TMG A1,and also the MB layout,
i think will go for TT TMG A1, reason been the mounting clip direction, as CM 690 case have a top fan, so with TT AMG A1 the heat can blow out from the case since the fins are facing the top, while the AC Freezer will face another direction.
Liqourice, since you got the actual board on hand, if can please confirm with me that the retention braceket will make TT TMG A1 fins will face the top...Thanks
*if you guys understand what i am trying to says  , please give me some advise.
TT TMG A1
AC Freezer 64 Pro
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AMD 9850, M3a79-T Deluxe, ATI 4870/512MB, CM 690 + CM Real Power 650W, 4G Ram, Thermaltake TMG A1
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11/15/2008 10:03 AM
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Liqourice
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I'm not sure I understand your question.
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Athlon X2 QL-62@2GHz
HD3200 & HD3650/512MB
4GB DDR2/667
Sadly missed:
Motherboard: Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
CPU: Phenom X4 9850 BE
Memory: Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
PSU: Corsair TX750W
GFX: Sapphire HD3870X2
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11/15/2008 10:14 AM
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dimwit13
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just make sure you are blowing the HOT AIR OUT OF THE CASE.
i know it should be a simple thing to remember but, i have seen/heard many people blowing the hot cpu air back inside their cases, and wonder why the new HSF is making their temps go up.
-dimwit-
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11/15/2008 06:41 PM
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winderic
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Well, i just wan to confirm that when the TT TMG A1 fit into the motherboard retention braceket, the fan/fin will face at the top of the case,
Cause i am using CM 690 which mean my MB is going to be vertical.
As the direction of the clip will determin where the fan/fins will face to.
Even AC Freezer and TMG A1 look similiar, but the clip for the MB rentention bracket is different way.
Yeah, dimwit13, that what i am trying to do now so that the air wont blow back to the case, kinda hard when i dont have the actual board on hand, only can compare thru user manual or photos, but i think my HSF will blow the air out with TMG A1.
Thanks for replying me guys, sorry about my poor english too , not really good in explaining things...
Thanks Legit Reviews for Photo.
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AMD 9850, M3a79-T Deluxe, ATI 4870/512MB, CM 690 + CM Real Power 650W, 4G Ram, Thermaltake TMG A1
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11/15/2008 06:51 PM
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winderic
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LOL, just found the photos that i want, that's how i want the cooler to sit on my motherboard.
Thanks Hardware Canucks for the photos
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11/15/2008 09:57 PM
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blaze051806
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use mine XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle i have a 9850 OC with his cooler and it works amazing make sure u use Arctic 5 Paste
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Case - Thermaltake M9 Mid Tower
Processor - AMD Phenom X4 9850 BE 3.8GHz
CPU Cooler - XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle
Fans - 5x120mm 2 Side Panel Intake 1 Front Intake 1 Rear Exhaust
Mother Board - BIOSTAR TA790GX A2+
Hard Drive - 500GB 7200RPM WD Sata
RAM - 2x2GB ( 4GB RAM ) ( DDR2 800MHz )
PS - 850 Watt Antec PSU ( 80% CTF )
Drive - DvD Burner 20x ( Litescribe )
Video Card - PowerColor ATI 4870 512MB OC
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11/15/2008 11:45 PM
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Liqourice
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Originally posted by: winderic
LOL, just found the photos that i want, that's how i want the cooler to sit on my motherboard.
Thanks Hardware Canucks for the photos
I honestly don't know how they were thinking when they designed that cooler to face that direction. It's all wrong. It should be exhausting air over the heatpipe and the mosfets to aid cooling there, and the fact that most chassis fans are right behind there. I wouldn't for my life touch that cooler unless I can turn it 90 degrees counter clockwise.
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CPU: Phenom X4 9850 BE
Memory: Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
PSU: Corsair TX750W
GFX: Sapphire HD3870X2
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11/16/2008 04:33 AM
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winderic
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Dont really get it why that direction got anything wrong.
Because for my CM 690 case, there are 2 fan that can be install on the top of the case, which is the heatpipes direction, i think it help ventilation for that case.
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11/16/2008 07:46 AM
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dimwit13
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if you have top mount case fans (exhaust) then the direction that is in the pictures will work great , if that is what i am seeing.
i wouldnt be to worried about blowing air accross the heat pipes with the hot HSF air.,as long as you have other case fans tht can blow cooler air over them..
the main thing to remember is,make sure the hot air leaves you case.
if you cant get the hot air out, it doesnt really matter how many fans you have.
that is why people on water have many case fans.
-dimwit-
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11/16/2008 08:47 AM
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winderic
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i will do more research just in case i am wrong,
Btw, how do we increase more fan when the motherboard only can connect max of 3 case fan?
And how do we determine if is a exhaust fan or intake fan?
Thanks
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11/16/2008 09:49 AM
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Liqourice
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If you blow 50 degree air on a 80 degree mosfet it will cool the mosfets and their temps will drop a tiny bit. If you don't blow any air on the 80 degree mosfet it won't be cooled by anything, the ambient air isn't enough to make a difference.
Hence, it's better to let the exhaust blow that way than not. It will extend the life of those mosfets a bit. Also, the heatpipe is mounted as it is for a reason. That's where the majority of the coolers exhaust their air on the way to the case exhaust fan.
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Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Xa 3530
Athlon X2 QL-62@2GHz
HD3200 & HD3650/512MB
4GB DDR2/667
Sadly missed:
Motherboard: Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
CPU: Phenom X4 9850 BE
Memory: Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
PSU: Corsair TX750W
GFX: Sapphire HD3870X2
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11/16/2008 09:57 AM
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dimwit13
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Liqourice, would it not be better to blow cooler 25c "Outside the case Air" on them then hot 50c case air?
that is what i was trying to get across
and to have him install the HSF correctly, instead of wrong just to have the fan blow air over the mosfets ?
that is why i said "as long as you have other fans blowing cooler air over them"
just my $.02
-dimwit-
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11/16/2008 02:16 PM
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Liqourice
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Of course, but I try to build my systems with a certain kind of flow of air. Just pumping lots of air in and not letting it go out in a good way won't help. If you're unfortunate you only make the same air go round and round inside and that won't do much after a while.
If you understand how I mean. Having different fans blowing air in all kind of directions is not thermodynamically sound.
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Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Xa 3530
Athlon X2 QL-62@2GHz
HD3200 & HD3650/512MB
4GB DDR2/667
Sadly missed:
Motherboard: Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
CPU: Phenom X4 9850 BE
Memory: Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
PSU: Corsair TX750W
GFX: Sapphire HD3870X2
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11/18/2008 05:33 PM
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winderic
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I'll be getting the cooler this saturday, so will see how it work then,
will keep you guys posted.
Thanks a lot for all the info. 
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11/18/2008 07:40 PM
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dimwit13
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Originally posted by: Liqourice
Of course, but I try to build my systems with a certain kind of flow of air. Just pumping lots of air in and not letting it go out in a good way won't help. If you're unfortunate you only make the same air go round and round inside and that won't do much after a while.
If you understand how I mean. Having different fans blowing air in all kind of directions is not thermodynamically sound.
hot air rises.
intake fans on the bottom front and side.
exhaust fans back and top.
up and out.
that is a good set up-imo
-dimwit-
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11/20/2008 05:21 PM
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winderic
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Yeah, my case current got front and side intake,
and one exhaust at the back, will be adding one more exhaust at the top.
Not sure will add in one more for bottom, cause already got 4 fan, scare will get dusty. will see how hot the case will get then decide.
Cant wait to pick up my stuffs tomorow
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11/27/2008 05:33 PM
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winderic
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Finally setup my comp, and is running fine...will be adding another exhaust fan soon after i get my fan filter
What software do you guys use to monitor the temp?
Speed fan? I am using Overdrive monitor status atm, cause it show all the core temp... Suggestion?
Thanks
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11/27/2008 07:46 PM
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Liqourice
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Originally posted by: winderic
Finally setup my comp, and is running fine...will be adding another exhaust fan soon after i get my fan filter
What software do you guys use to monitor the temp?
Speed fan? I am using Overdrive monitor status atm, cause it show all the core temp... Suggestion?
Thanks
HWMonitor shows cpu and core temps as well as other temps, fanspeeds and voltages.
I don't recommend CoreTemp for the Phenom really, it's not very reliable with the way it reports cpu frequencies, and it only shows cpu temp.
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Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Xa 3530 Athlon X2 QL-62@2GHz HD3200 & HD3650/512MB 4GB DDR2/667 Sadly missed:Motherboard: Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
CPU: Phenom X4 9850 BE
Memory: Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
PSU: Corsair TX750W
GFX: Sapphire HD3870X2
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