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 11/29/2010 01:12 PM
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dbomb
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I have a
AMD Phenom X4 9750 2.4Ghz 4MB
ECS A780GM-A AMD780G Socket AM2+ Motherboard
and have an over heating problem It has been up and over 80C
my case has 2 120mm case fans, 1 Dual Slot Fan and 1 Slot Turbo Fan
my cpu fan is ULTRA X-WIND ALUMINUM FAN K8/AM2/AM2+/AM3
with Premium Thermal Compound
I have the cool and quiet on
I have had this problem from the first day I've had this computer
 11/30/2010 07:27 PM
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hey,
i have the same motherboard on another system with a 9550.
are you sure it is the cpu that is going that high?
the only reason i ask is because i had to add a fan to the gold heat sink and plug it into the northbride fan terminal.
i seem to remember that the board was only rated to 95 watt cpu. i see they make two versions 95 and 125 w. i never had any complaints with the amd stock cooler i am still using it and it is very quiet.

if it is the cpu that is going to 80c and it is the proper wattage i would suspect the cooler in not attached properly and poor paste coverage

hope this may help some.
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 11/30/2010 07:33 PM
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Which version, 95 watts or 125 watts, does the OP have?

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 11/30/2010 10:33 PM
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oh, thought i had that question in there. i guess my mind was going faster than my fingers. i meant to ask. i hope it is the 95 watt version, probably is, if not the board would probabley be toast if it was the 125w.

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cpu amd 965-c3 @4.0, silenX efz120ha4 cooler
8gigs patriot memory pgs34g1600llka (1333 cl7), xfx 6970 gpu, xfx 750w power supply.
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 12/01/2010 01:47 PM
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First I do not know if it's 95 or 125w but on the box it came in it says that it supports AMD phenom quad-core processor
as for it being the CPU I have run the core temp program to get my readings
I switched out the CPU and tried a different one It did run cooler I can not remember how much cooler but I think it ran at 65C
the paste I used did spread nicely as for the the CPU fan the one I got I have used in five other builds and it has never given me a problem before
as for putting a fan on the heat sink the CPU fan would most likely be in the way

thanks for the help

Edited: 12/01/2010 at 03:58 PM by dbomb
 12/01/2010 02:00 PM
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Try a thermal compound like AS5 or other competitors? This may knock off a few degrees C.

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 12/01/2010 07:13 PM
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it would be important to know what the wattage is of the cpu.
i could not find any wattage specs on how much the xwind 90cfm will remove, but 95w is not to hard to do.
can you see any fan rpm readings when you are getting the temp reading. it looks like the cpu fan may go 2200rpm.if it is alot lower see if you can adjust in the bios.
the reviews of the cpu cooler had complaints about attaching. i would look to see if it is on tight, is it clean in the fins.
also do you know what voltage is being applied to your cpu chip? it may be to high causing extra heat.
do you have the amd cooler? you could put it on if you do and see if there is any improvement.

the fan for that heat sink i had wrote about earlier is very small, i think it was a 6 or 8 mm. and only about 3mm tall. it may fit. again i was using the amd stock cooler and i can't see what you have so i will leave that up to you.

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cpu amd 965-c3 @4.0, silenX efz120ha4 cooler
8gigs patriot memory pgs34g1600llka (1333 cl7), xfx 6970 gpu, xfx 750w power supply.
windows 7 -64
 12/02/2010 11:49 AM
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I found out what watts the CPU is it's 125w so I guess my board is lucky it has lasted this long there is no place it says what CPU watts it can handle though
as for the fan here is a link
">http://www.tigerdirect...ppl.....pNo=2443597

also it on there good it is hard to get it on at first but once you have done it a few time you can tell when its on
the chip did not come with a cooler so I don't have a spare
in the bios for the board it will only let me up the CPU voltage not lower it I will check on it when I get home

Edited: 12/02/2010 at 12:11 PM by dbomb
 12/02/2010 05:32 PM
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hey,
well the box and the owners manual does not say what wattage cpu the board will support. when i got mine i do remember reading somewhere that it said 95w max, but that could have been incorrect. i would goto esc tech support and ask them.
the manual does suggest a 4800rpm fan and heat sink though, it will take some resaerch on your part to find out what amd says is the proper supply voltage to the chip(cpu) and then you will have to check what you have yours set to.
i could not find a link for that cooler but if it has a 4 pin connector in the bios under cpu smart fan you can change some settings and may get better control, or disable it so the fan will run full blast. if that does not cool it down i think you will need a bigger cooler.

keep us posted ,
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gigabyte ga-ma790fxt-ud5p bios f8h,
cpu amd 965-c3 @4.0, silenX efz120ha4 cooler
8gigs patriot memory pgs34g1600llka (1333 cl7), xfx 6970 gpu, xfx 750w power supply.
windows 7 -64
 12/03/2010 12:47 PM
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I do have a mother board (MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum Motherboard) that has 125w rating on it in a different computer right now I might just switch out the CPU and try that I need some more thermal compound before i try it I will Try a thermal compound like AS5 or other competitors
as for the CPU cooler it runs at 2800 RPM but the air flow is 53.5 CFM but if I when out and got a faster one lets say a Cooler Master DK8-7G52B-A2-GP 3050 ~ 6000 RPM but the air flow is only 29.29 ~ 41.95 CFM
and I have turn off the CPU smart fan just to try
I think you might be right about the board being only 95w I'm going to try and find out what it is from ecs
I forgot to check the CPU voltage last night I will try to remember


thank for all the help
 12/04/2010 06:12 PM
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i think that may be a 95w cooler also, it is hard to find specs on a lot of them , this one list it as 130w http://www.coolermaster-usa.co...d=1623&product_id=2922 . just be sure if you get another one that it will handle the 125 w that you need.

also you have to look at case air flow, take the covers off and blow a fan at the motherboard and see what happens to your temps.

if the fan you have is running at it max (rpm) and still does not cool enough then you need a better cooler, after verifing power to the chip is correct .

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gigabyte ga-ma790fxt-ud5p bios f8h,
cpu amd 965-c3 @4.0, silenX efz120ha4 cooler
8gigs patriot memory pgs34g1600llka (1333 cl7), xfx 6970 gpu, xfx 750w power supply.
windows 7 -64
 12/06/2010 01:41 PM
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after some searching fond out the ECS A780GM-A AMD780G mother board only supports seven 125w and mines not one of them
on the cnet reviews for this board it states that it ONLY SUPPORTS 95 WATT & BELOW CPUs so I guess I should have done more research on this board usually I will get a lot better board for my builds but needed something with hdmi output
as for the cpu fan I think I will keep it for now after I switch out the board If it still giving me a problem then I will look at getting some thing different
hopefully the heat sink come it this week so I can change the boards out

does an body know a way of changing out the motherboard so I do not lose all the programs I have on the computer

Edited: 12/06/2010 at 02:13 PM by dbomb
 12/06/2010 05:35 PM
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If your mobo only supported a 95w cpu it would throttle down the cpu so it would only run at 1.2ghz and would not couse it to overheat. Your problem is that you heatsink is not up to the job.
I'm looking at the Ultra X-wind right now and I'll tell ya, there's no way that this thing is going to keep a 125w quad-core cool enough.

You might want to upgrade

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