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Hi,

I wonder if there is a Processor Diagnostic Tool for Phenom II processors. So, other than running CPU benchmark tests, like Fritz Chess, or running stress tests, like Prime95, I can run this test to make sure all built-in instruction sets, including 3DNow! and SSE, can be executed properly, and all the support/thermal-regulating features are there.

Edited: 04/08/2011 at 10:57 AM by cnchang
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Have you tried AMD OverDrive?

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Well, I can't seem to find AOD's tests categorized by instruction sets(e.g., basic x86 instructions, 3DNow!, SSE, ...). Nonetheless, there are some integer tests and floating point tests, even memory and cache test, but no 3DNow!, SSE and else.

Sandra can provide some valuable CPU features info together with some SSE2 and Whetstone iSSE3 benchmark results. But, it is not a complete diagnostic test for all built-in instructions/features. For example, SSE4 and 3DNow! features are detected but not tested. AMD K10 CPU's Dual Dynamic Power Management feature can't be found in the report.

How about a CPU diagnostic tool that starts with the basic x86 instructions test and then followed with extended and extra features tests to check if all built-in and detected features are sound and kicking?

<<< Processors >>>
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<< CPU 1 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 0] >>
< Processor >
Manufacturer: AMD
Model: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
Speed: 3.21GHz
Peak Processing Performance (P:51.38GFLOPS
Adjusted Peak Performance (APP:15.41WG
Cores per Processor: 4 Unit(s)
Threads per Core: 1 Unit(s)
Type: Quad-Core
Bus: HyperTransport
Package: Socket AM2r2/AM3
Maximum Speed: 3.2GHz / 1x 200MHz (200MHz)
Multiplier: 16x
Minimum/Maximum/Turbo Multipli:4x - 16x
Generation: G8
Name: M4 Phenom II X4 (Deneb/Propus) 45nm 2.2-
2.8GHz
Revision/Stepping: 1B76 / 4 / 3
Stepping Mask: RB-C3
Core Voltage Rating: 1.150V
Min/Max Core Voltage: 0.925V - 1.150V
Min/Max Core Current: 0.000A - 8.100A
Maximum Power: 133.79W
Maximum Physical / Virtual Add:48-bit / 48-bit
Native Page Size: 4kB
Large Page Size: 2MB
Part Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Asset Tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

< Co-Processor (FPU) >
Speed: 3.21GHz
Type: Integrated
Revision/Stepping: 1B76 / 4 / 3

< Memory Controller >
Integrated in Processor: Yes
Speed: 2GHz
Multiplier: 10x
Minimum/Maximum/Turbo Multipli:10x - 10x
Core Voltage Rating: 1.100V
Min/Max Core Voltage: 1.100V - 1.100V

< Cache Information >
Integrated Data Cache: 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way,
Exclusive, 64 byte line size
Integrated Instruction Cache: 64kB, Synchronous, Write-Back, 2-way, 64 byte
line size
L2 On-board Cache: 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way,
Exclusive, 64 byte line size
L2 Cache Multiplier: 1x
L3 On-board Cache: 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64
byte line size, 4 threads sharing
L3 Cache Multiplier: 1/10x

< Upgradeability >
Socket/Slot: AM3
Supported Speed(s): 3.21GHz

< Environment Sensors 1 >
Model: ITE IT8720F LPC
Version: 2.00
Mainboard Specific Support: No

< Environment Sensors 2 >
Model: AMD K8 F10 CPU [P0]
Version: 4.03
Mainboard Specific Support: No

< Power Rating(s) >
CPU Core Power: 133.79W

< Sensors >
CPU 1 Temperature: 37.25°C td

< Features >
FPU - Integrated Co-Processor: Yes
VME - Virtual Mode Extensions: Yes
DE - Debugging Extension: Yes
PSE - Page Size Extension: Yes
TSC - Time Stamp Counter: Yes
MSR - Model Specific Registers:Yes
PAE - Physical Address Extensi:Yes
MCE - Machine Check Exception: Yes
CX8 - Compare & Exchange 8-byt:Yes
APIC - Local APIC Integrated: Yes
SEP - Fast System Call: Yes
MTRR - Memory Type Range Regis:Yes
PGE - Page Global Enable: Yes
MCA - Machine Check Architectu:Yes
PAT - Page Attribute Table: Yes
PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Exten:Yes
PSN - Unique Serial Number: No
CLF - Cache Line Flush Support:Yes
DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store: No
ACPI - Software Clock Control: No
(W)MMX Technology: Yes
FXSR - Fast Float Save & Resto:Yes
SSE Technology: Yes
SSE2 Technology: Yes
SS - Self Snoop: No
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technolo:No
TM - Thermal Monitor: No
PBE - Pending Break Enable: No
IA64 Technology: No
SSE3 Technology: Yes
PCLMULQDQ - Carryless Multipli:No
MON - Monitor/MWait: Yes
DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug St:No
VMX - Virtual Machine eXtensio:No
SMX - Trust Execution Technolo:No
EIST - Enhanced SpeedStep Tech:No
TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2: No
Supplemental SSE3 Technology: No
CID - Context ID: No
FMA - Fused Multiply/Add eXten:No
CX16 - Compare & Exchange 16-b:Yes
xTPR - Send Task Priority Mess:No
PDCM - PerfMon and Debug: No
DCA - Direct Cache Access: No
SSE4.1 Technology: No
SSE4.2 Technology: No
x2APIC - v2 APIC Mode: No
MOVBE - Byte-swap Load/Store: No
POPCNT - Pop Count: Yes
AES - Cryptography Support: No
XSAVE - eXtended State Managem:No
OSXSAVE - OS Enabled eXtended :No
AVX - Advanced Vector eXtensio:No
GIH - Guest in Hypervisor: No
DAZ - Denormals Are Zero: Yes

< Extended Features >
SYCR - Extended Fast System Ca:Yes
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology:Yes
FXSR - Fast Float Save & Resto:Yes
FXSR - Instructions Optimisati:Yes
3DNow! Technology: Yes
Extended 3DNow! Technology: Yes
XD/NX - No-execute Page Protec:Yes
AMD64/EM64T Technology: Yes
RDTSCP - Serialised TSC: Yes
P1GB - 1GB Large Page Support: Yes
LAHF/SAHF - Support in 64-bit: Yes
CMP - Multi-Core Legacy Mode: Yes
SVM - Secure Virtual Machine: Yes
APICEX - Extended APIC Registe:Yes
AltMovCr8 - Lock Move CRn: Yes
ABM - Advanced Bit Manipulatio:Yes
SSE4A Technology: Yes
MASSE - Misaligned SSE Mode: Yes
3D Now! Prefetch Technology: Yes
OSVW - OS Visible Work-around: Yes
IBS - Instruction Based Sampli:Yes
XOP - eXtended OPerations: No
SKINIT - HVCE Support: Yes
WDT - Watchdog Timer Support: Yes
FMA4 - 4 Operands Fused Multip:No
CVT16 - Half Precision Float C:No
NID - Multi-Node Support: No

< Power Management Features >
TDP - TDP Limiting Support: No
CPB - Core Performance Boost: No
TSCINV - TSC Invariant Across :Yes
HWPS - Hardware P-State Contro:Yes
½ - Half Multiplier Support: Yes
STC - Software Thermal Control:Yes
TM - Thermal Monitor: Yes
TTP - Thermal Trip: Yes
VID - Voltage Control: No
FID - Frequency Control: No
TS - Thermal Sensor Integrated:Yes

< Performance Optimisation Flags >
FP128 - Full-width SSE operati:Yes
MOVU - MOVUxx more efficient: Yes

< Virtual Machine Features >
Version: 1.01
NP - Nested Paging: Yes
LBRV - LBR Virtualisation: Yes

< Advanced Settings >
SB-RMI - Remote Management Int:No
Multiple VDD Support: Yes
HTC - Hardware Thermal Control:Yes
Control Temperature: 90.00°C
Individual Core VDD: No
Temperature: 37.25°C

< Symmetric Multiprocessing (SMP) Settings >
Maximum Supported Configuratio:1-way
Bootstrap CPU: Yes
Global APIC Engaged: Yes
x2APIC - v2 APIC Mode: No
APIC ID: 0 : P0C0T0
Cluster ID: 0
Symmetric Arbitration ID: 0
Memory Range: 00000000FEE00000

< Machine Check Architecture Settings >
Number of Reporting Banks: 6
Exception Reporting Control Su:Yes

....

<<< Processor Arithmetic >>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

< Benchmark Results >
Aggregate Arithmetic Performan:43.16GOPS
Dhrystone ALU: 44.34GIPS
Whetstone iSSE3: 42GFLOPS
Results Interpretation: Higher index values are better.

< Windows Experience Index >
Current Processor(s): 7.3
Results Interpretation: Higher index values are better.

< Performance vs. Speed >
Aggregate Arithmetic Performan:13.44MOPS/MHz
Dhrystone ALU: 13.81MIPS/MHz
Whetstone iSSE3: 13.08MFLOPS/MHz
Results Interpretation: Higher index values are better.

< Performance vs. Power >
Processor(s) Power: 133.79W
Aggregate Arithmetic Performan:322.63MOPS/W
Dhrystone ALU: 331.42MIPS/W
Whetstone iSSE3: 313.84MFLOPS/W
Results Interpretation: Higher index values are better.


<<< Processor Multi-Media >>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

< Benchmark Results >
Aggregate Multi-Media Performa:89.45MPixel/s
Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE2: 124MPixel/s
Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2: 55MPixel/s
Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2: 30MPixel/s
Results Interpretation: Higher index values are better.

< Windows Experience Index >
Current Processor(s): 7.3
Results Interpretation: Higher index values are better.

< Performance vs. Speed >
Aggregate Multi-Media Performa:27.86kPixels/s/MHz
Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE2: 38.61kPixels/s/MHz
Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2: 17.10kPixels/s/MHz
Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2: 9.35kPixels/s/MHz
Results Interpretation: Higher index values are better.

< Performance vs. Power >
Processor(s) Power: 133.79W
Aggregate Multi-Media Performa:668.56kPixels/s/W
Multi-Media Int x8 aSSE2: 926.63kPixels/s/W
Multi-Media Float x4 iSSE2: 410.48kPixels/s/W
Multi-Media Double x2 iSSE2: 224.37kPixels/s/W
Results Interpretation: Higher index values are better.
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Edited: 04/09/2011 at 02:46 AM by cnchang
 04/09/2011 03:45 AM
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I don't think there is a complete diagnostic test for all the bult-in features like what you want.
Why would you need something like that anyways?

As for "K10 CPU's Dual Dynamic Power Management feature" turn on cool&quiet and and watch cpu-z and you'll see it working but your not going to get a report

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Originally posted by: SlayerX

As for "K10 CPU's Dual Dynamic Power Management feature" turn on cool&quiet and and watch cpu-z and you'll see it working but your not going to get a report


Not sure if Dual Dynamic Power Management feature = Cool'n'Quiet Technology
CnQ started from some K8 CPUs, e.g., Athlon 64 2800+. But, didn't Dual Dynamic Power Management start from K10 CPUs, e.g., Phenoms & Phenom IIs?

Originally posted by: SlayerX
I don't think there is a complete diagnostic test for all the bult-in features like what you want.

Why would you need something like that anyways?

If you have bought an AES-hardware-accelerated-capable CPU, would you like to make sure it lives up to its reputation? Or, you don't mind even if it crunches AES encryption stuff using basic x86 instructions.

So now getting back to Phenom IIs, do you mind if your CPU's 3DNow! or SSE acceleration feature is not working and must fall back to the basic stuff?

Edited: 04/16/2011 at 07:40 AM by cnchang
 04/11/2011 12:06 AM
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Is this the right place to ask AMD processor related questions so that AMD can see and respond? Is there a way to escalate the unanswered and legitimate questions?

If AMD can't offer one tool that can test all Phenom II basic and extension features, then how about recommend a list of tools that may work together to achieve that goal? For example, TMPGEnc(or FFFF without MMX) to test MMX, 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, y-cruncher to test SSE3, ...

Edited: 04/16/2011 at 03:05 AM by cnchang
 04/16/2011 03:42 AM
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Well, it seems TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 5 will give you a chance to check if CPU's MMX, 3DNow, or SSE extensions(from SSE, SSE2, SSE3, to SSE4.1 and 4.2 but not including SSE4a) are working.

Plus, I almost don't see any performance difference with or without SSE3 when using TMPGEnc. However, CPU RightMark 3D Rendering can show more than 5% performance boost in some cases when SSE3 turned ON.

Edited: 04/18/2011 at 12:09 AM by cnchang
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