First of all, 60°C is not bad or outside the specification but is entirely normal.
It is UNACCEPTABLE if your CPU max allowable temp is 60?C internal protection inside your CPU triggers at 61?C.
What motherboard were you using?
Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DS5 with latest BIOS (F6 IIRC)
Here is link to specs:
Which program were you using to poll the temperatures?
Program was a gadget inside GNOME which was using kernel infrastructure to do this ( nf-something, I can check it out if its relevant).
What cooling were you using (fan/heatsink/TIM)?
I used what I've got in the package with CPU. Strictly as it was meant to be used, unmodified.
What are your ambient heatsink temperatures?
Well, my room is in the attic and case is very well ventilated.
Sensor on the board shows now 30?C and it probably was something around that with Phenom. I don't place big confidence in this reading since it is very dependent on airflow path etc.
I've got free-running temp 38?C with BOX cooler, which went over 60?C under load.
What was your load voltage?
Strictly default. No overvolting, overclocking etc.
What temperature was showing idling with 9850 BE at stock with CnQ activated?
I've got free-running temp 38?C with BOX cooler, which went over 60?C under lload. It wasn't with fully enabled CnQ, since Linux kernel 2.6.25 doesn't have it yet- it is included in 2.6.26. IIRC CPU was idling at 1GHz and 1.07V according to readings...
60°C 65nm 125W is still not hot. The 65nm QX6700 ran plus 70°C stock under load air cooling.
Yes, but QX can run hot. Phenom obviously can't. It faints so hard that it needs 10 minutes or so to be able to POST again...
Which errors exactly? I really am not sure what you are saying but I'll clarify.
How about cooling system capabilities ? Stick CPU in test socket, press on top its cooler, start some CPU intensice program asnd see what happens ?
Or maybe checking that cooling surfaces are actually plain ?
If I can press CPU against cooler, look at it againsta backgund lam and SEE THE LIGHT COMING BETWEEN CPU AND HEATSINK how hard it is for AMD to figure that physical tolerances are WAAAAY out of specs ?
What makes you say 9850 BE can't run over 60°C?
Well, readings for pone thing. 10 seconds after temp reaches 60 it dies.
Specs are another. After my initial complaint on some forum someone has linked Phenom's data ( IIRC it was a Whitepaper) and it clearly listed max temp as 60?C
It can run at and above 60°C very easily and it does safely with many users.
Well, maybe AMD is selling better stuf in US and we get borderline stuff, but NONE of my Phenoms can cross 60?C...