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Topic Title: Core Stepping ? Does this make a difference when upgrading processor?
Topic Summary: Upgrading from TL-52 to TL-60 with different core stepping?
Created On: 01/19/2010 05:46 PM
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 01/19/2010 05:46 PM
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CBC_GreenCpu
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I've running into a bit of trouble with upgrading my Acer Extensa 4120(lastest bios @ 1.18). This laptop original had a Sempron 3600+, but I swapped it out with a TL-52 early on. No problem there.

I recently decided to do another upgrade to the TL-60(TMDTL60HAX5DC). I took out the TL-52 and placed the TL-60. I powered it on, but I don't even get to POST and laptop shuts down. I don't see why this upgrade won't work. It is S1G1 .. the thermal design wattage is the same as TL-52, so I don't see it overheating .. one is built on 0.09u and the other is 0.065 sh .. The only thing I can think of now is that the Core Stepping is different .. the TL-52 is F2 and TL-60 is G1.


Can anyone confirm or deny that the core stepping should be the same when upgrading??

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Netbook: Gateway LT3108h
-L310 (upgraded from L110)
Laptop: Acer Extensa 4120
-TL-60 (upgrade from Sempron 3600+ > TL-52)

Rig1: Phenom X4 II 940, 8GB, 2 * 4670 512mb (CF) , 2.5TB
 01/19/2010 05:57 PM
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When was that bios version released in comparison to that CPU? It could be that they just end-of-life'd that mobo before they included that CPU into the mix of things.

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 01/19/2010 06:09 PM
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The bios is dated @ 2008/12/08 .. the TL-60 was introduced in May 3, 2007 according to CPU-World. The MB should be able identify the cpu. I know there are three version of TL-60 .. 1 built with 0.09u (F2 stepping) process and 2 built with 0.065 (G1 and G2 accordingly). I got the with the G1 stepping b/c of the similar thermal envelope of TL-52. I did more digging and noticed the original Sempron 3600+ in the notebook had F2 stepping. I'm not sure if this is a coincidence or not.

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Netbook: Gateway LT3108h
-L310 (upgraded from L110)
Laptop: Acer Extensa 4120
-TL-60 (upgrade from Sempron 3600+ > TL-52)

Rig1: Phenom X4 II 940, 8GB, 2 * 4670 512mb (CF) , 2.5TB
 01/19/2010 06:25 PM
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Another thing I've noticed as I search through CPU-World is that a cpu with a F2 core stepping has two core voltages ( 1.075 / 1.1 ) .. while a G1/G2 has three core voltages (1.075 / 1.1 / 1.125) ... Maybe that why my mb doesn't like it ? Any one else has opinion?

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Netbook: Gateway LT3108h
-L310 (upgraded from L110)
Laptop: Acer Extensa 4120
-TL-60 (upgrade from Sempron 3600+ > TL-52)

Rig1: Phenom X4 II 940, 8GB, 2 * 4670 512mb (CF) , 2.5TB
 01/19/2010 11:24 PM
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Are you able to test if the TL-60 is not spoilt?
I suspect the TL-60 is damaged, TL-52 should be interchangeable. The nm difference is purely architecture and shouldn't matter.

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 01/20/2010 10:29 AM
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Thanks Weinter .. I don't have another notebook to test the TL-60. I hope that isn't the case, but at this point it starting to lean towards that.

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Netbook: Gateway LT3108h
-L310 (upgraded from L110)
Laptop: Acer Extensa 4120
-TL-60 (upgrade from Sempron 3600+ > TL-52)

Rig1: Phenom X4 II 940, 8GB, 2 * 4670 512mb (CF) , 2.5TB
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