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 10/12/2003 03:28 PM
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I am looking for Fujitsu S2020 in Bangkok now. The price will be about 59900 Baht or $ 1497. How is it?

Low-voltage mobile AMD® Athlon® XP 1900+
• 13.3" XGA TFT display
• 256 MB DDR266 memory
• 30 GB hard drive¹
• Modular DVD/CD-RW combo drive
• Integrated multinational² 56K³ V.90 modem and 10/100 Base-Tx Ethernet
• Integrated 802.11b/54g™ wireless LAN
• Windows® XP Home
• One-year International Limited Warranty


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14.1-inch diagonal WXGA anti-glare
ATI Radeon X1250
Broadcom NetLink Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Broadcom 802.11b/g; Bluetooth 2.0
5.0 lb (2.6 kg)
 10/12/2003 03:32 PM
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looks like a good system...

cheers,

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 10/12/2003 09:18 PM
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not a bad system, but I'd probably go for a 14 inch screen if the system is configurable, and I'll definitely get rid of Win XP, if you can (bloody Microsoft)

ps. that price is in US$ right??
 10/12/2003 10:09 PM
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The price is baht. But I just compare for you to see. 13.3 inch moniter is good enought.

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AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-60 (2.0 GHz, 2 x 512 KB L2 cache)
2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
320 GB 7200 rpm SATA (WDC WD3200BEKT)
DVD+/-RW SuperMulti with Double Layer
14.1-inch diagonal WXGA anti-glare
ATI Radeon X1250
Broadcom NetLink Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Broadcom 802.11b/g; Bluetooth 2.0
5.0 lb (2.6 kg)
 10/15/2003 02:02 AM
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i like the system, don't get me wrong. It's just that if i want to get a laptop, i wouldn't go for any thing less than a 14 inch screen, 15 is about right, 16 is even better(but will probably consume too much battery and be a bit too heavy). Of course, that's just my opinion.

one thing i just noticed. I thought 802.11b has only 11Mbps bandwidth.
 10/15/2003 08:06 AM
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QUOTE (ksama @ Oct 14 2003, 10:02 PM) i like the system, don't get me wrong. It's just that if i want to get a laptop, i wouldn't go for any thing less than a 14 inch screen, 15 is about right, 16 is even better(but will probably consume too much battery and be a bit too heavy). Of course, that's just my opinion.

one thing i just noticed. I thought 802.11b has only 11Mbps bandwidth.
802.11b has 11/22mbps
802.11g (pre-spec) was 54mbps
802.11g (spec) was ratified down to 22mbps or so.

cheers,

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QUOTE (Dave Graham @ Oct 15 2003, 04:06 AM) QUOTE (ksama @ Oct 14 2003, 10:02 PM) i like the system, don't get me wrong. It's just that if i want to get a laptop, i wouldn't go for any thing less than a 14 inch screen, 15 is about right, 16 is even better(but will probably consume too much battery and be a bit too heavy). Of course, that's just my opinion.

one thing i just noticed. I thought 802.11b has only 11Mbps bandwidth.
802.11b has 11/22mbps
802.11g (pre-spec) was 54mbps
802.11g (spec) was ratified down to 22mbps or so.

cheers,

dave
so was I right???

this is the spec given:
• Integrated 802.11b/54g™ wireless LAN

Dave, from what you've posted, looks like i'm right. Or is the specs misleading??
 10/15/2003 12:54 PM
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Just see this. Everything will be clear.

High Speed Wireless
The 54g™ wireless LAN delivers up to 54 Mbps transfer rate nearly five times faster than 802.11b standard. 54g offers higher throughput, longer range and higher bandwidth for a better overall experience. It is fully backward compatible with 802.11b and is interoperable with Broadcom-certified 54g access points. 54g is ideal for a home or business which requires wireless flexibility. 54g wireless LAN is standard on select LifeBook models, or is available as a custom configuration option. For more information on 54g wireless visit www.54g.org

http://www.computers.us.fujits...w/pr...atures_benefits' ">http://www.computers.us.fujits...ries_features_benefits

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HP Compaq Business Notebook
AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-60 (2.0 GHz, 2 x 512 KB L2 cache)
2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
320 GB 7200 rpm SATA (WDC WD3200BEKT)
DVD+/-RW SuperMulti with Double Layer
14.1-inch diagonal WXGA anti-glare
ATI Radeon X1250
Broadcom NetLink Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Broadcom 802.11b/g; Bluetooth 2.0
5.0 lb (2.6 kg)
 10/15/2003 12:57 PM
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problem is, 802.11g was ratified AFTER most manufacturers spent R&D getting it to 54mbps. The subsequent ratification basically emasculated the spec. making it no better than 802.11a.

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 10/16/2003 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (Athlon64fx @ Oct 15 2003, 08:54 AM) Just see this. Everything will be clear.

High Speed Wireless
The 54g™ wireless LAN delivers up to 54 Mbps transfer rate nearly five times faster than 802.11b standard. 54g offers higher throughput, longer range and higher bandwidth for a better overall experience. It is fully backward compatible with 802.11b and is interoperable with Broadcom-certified 54g access points. 54g is ideal for a home or business which requires wireless flexibility. 54g wireless LAN is standard on select LifeBook models, or is available as a custom configuration option. For more information on 54g wireless visit www.54g.org

http://www.computers.us.fujits...w/pr...atures_benefits' ">http://www.computers.us.fujits...ries_features_benefits
well, i understand that part ages ago. but i just don't get why the specs states it's a 802.11b but also note 54g??

shouldn't it be 802.11b/11Mbps????

Or does it mean it's actually a 54Mbps 802.11g wireless LAN, but downgraded to b standard which works at a much lower rate??? But why would they do that???
 10/16/2003 01:18 AM
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Someplace are not allow to use 802.11g now. Or they just spend for 802.11b hotspot. So Fujitsu have to give both way.

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HP Compaq Business Notebook
AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-60 (2.0 GHz, 2 x 512 KB L2 cache)
2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
320 GB 7200 rpm SATA (WDC WD3200BEKT)
DVD+/-RW SuperMulti with Double Layer
14.1-inch diagonal WXGA anti-glare
ATI Radeon X1250
Broadcom NetLink Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Broadcom 802.11b/g; Bluetooth 2.0
5.0 lb (2.6 kg)
 10/16/2003 06:54 AM
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you can have both standards present without occupying much real estate.

Fujitsu is just covering their bases.

cheers,
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 10/16/2003 11:57 AM
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But I still cannot use wireless in Thailand because hot-spot are available for few place only. In the city, some excellent department store and some 5 Stars Hotel.

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HP Compaq Business Notebook
AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-60 (2.0 GHz, 2 x 512 KB L2 cache)
2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
320 GB 7200 rpm SATA (WDC WD3200BEKT)
DVD+/-RW SuperMulti with Double Layer
14.1-inch diagonal WXGA anti-glare
ATI Radeon X1250
Broadcom NetLink Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Broadcom 802.11b/g; Bluetooth 2.0
5.0 lb (2.6 kg)
 10/18/2003 12:15 AM
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well, Wireless hasn't been adopted to many places yet. It's still a relatively new thing, so I guess sometime is needed before more hot spots are available. I think INTEL has done such a big promotion of Centrino, and it makes people believe that the wireless service is already available when it isn't.
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