 10/12/2003 03:28 PM
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Athlon64fx Member

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I am looking for Fujitsu S2020 in Bangkok now. The price will be about 59900 Baht or $ 1497. How is it?
Low-voltage mobile AMD® Athlon® XP 1900+ • 13.3" XGA TFT display • 256 MB DDR266 memory • 30 GB hard drive¹ • Modular DVD/CD-RW combo drive • Integrated multinational² 56K³ V.90 modem and 10/100 Base-Tx Ethernet • Integrated 802.11b/54g™ wireless LAN • Windows® XP Home • One-year International Limited Warranty
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 10/12/2003 03:32 PM
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Dave Graham Senior Member

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looks like a good system... cheers, dave
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 10/12/2003 09:18 PM
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ksama Member

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not a bad system, but I'd probably go for a 14 inch screen if the system is configurable, and I'll definitely get rid of Win XP, if you can (bloody Microsoft)
ps. that price is in US$ right??
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 10/12/2003 10:09 PM
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Athlon64fx Member

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The price is baht. But I just compare for you to see. 13.3 inch moniter is good enought.
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 10/15/2003 02:02 AM
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ksama Member

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i like the system, don't get me wrong. It's just that if i want to get a laptop, i wouldn't go for any thing less than a 14 inch screen, 15 is about right, 16 is even better(but will probably consume too much battery and be a bit too heavy). Of course, that's just my opinion.
one thing i just noticed. I thought 802.11b has only 11Mbps bandwidth.
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 10/15/2003 08:06 AM
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Dave Graham Senior Member

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QUOTE (ksama @ Oct 14 2003, 10:02 PM) i like the system, don't get me wrong. It's just that if i want to get a laptop, i wouldn't go for any thing less than a 14 inch screen, 15 is about right, 16 is even better(but will probably consume too much battery and be a bit too heavy). Of course, that's just my opinion. one thing i just noticed. I thought 802.11b has only 11Mbps bandwidth. 802.11b has 11/22mbps 802.11g (pre-spec) was 54mbps 802.11g (spec) was ratified down to 22mbps or so. cheers, dave
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 10/15/2003 11:32 AM
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ksama Member

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QUOTE (Dave Graham @ Oct 15 2003, 04:06 AM) QUOTE (ksama @ Oct 14 2003, 10:02 PM) i like the system, don't get me wrong. It's just that if i want to get a laptop, i wouldn't go for any thing less than a 14 inch screen, 15 is about right, 16 is even better(but will probably consume too much battery and be a bit too heavy). Of course, that's just my opinion.
one thing i just noticed. I thought 802.11b has only 11Mbps bandwidth. 802.11b has 11/22mbps 802.11g (pre-spec) was 54mbps 802.11g (spec) was ratified down to 22mbps or so.
cheers,
dave so was I right???
this is the spec given: • Integrated 802.11b/54g™ wireless LAN
Dave, from what you've posted, looks like i'm right. Or is the specs misleading??
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 10/15/2003 12:54 PM
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Athlon64fx Member

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Just see this. Everything will be clear. High Speed Wireless The 54g™ wireless LAN delivers up to 54 Mbps transfer rate nearly five times faster than 802.11b standard. 54g offers higher throughput, longer range and higher bandwidth for a better overall experience. It is fully backward compatible with 802.11b and is interoperable with Broadcom-certified 54g access points. 54g is ideal for a home or business which requires wireless flexibility. 54g wireless LAN is standard on select LifeBook models, or is available as a custom configuration option. For more information on 54g wireless visit www.54g.org http://www.computers.us.fujits...w/pr...atures_benefits' ">http://www.computers.us.fujits...ries_features_benefits
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 10/15/2003 12:57 PM
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Dave Graham Senior Member

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problem is, 802.11g was ratified AFTER most manufacturers spent R&D getting it to 54mbps. The subsequent ratification basically emasculated the spec. making it no better than 802.11a. cheers, dave
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 10/16/2003 01:13 AM
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ksama Member

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QUOTE (Athlon64fx @ Oct 15 2003, 08:54 AM) Just see this. Everything will be clear. High Speed Wireless The 54g™ wireless LAN delivers up to 54 Mbps transfer rate nearly five times faster than 802.11b standard. 54g offers higher throughput, longer range and higher bandwidth for a better overall experience. It is fully backward compatible with 802.11b and is interoperable with Broadcom-certified 54g access points. 54g is ideal for a home or business which requires wireless flexibility. 54g wireless LAN is standard on select LifeBook models, or is available as a custom configuration option. For more information on 54g wireless visit www.54g.org http://www.computers.us.fujits...w/pr...atures_benefits' ">http://www.computers.us.fujits...ries_features_benefits well, i understand that part ages ago. but i just don't get why the specs states it's a 802.11b but also note 54g?? shouldn't it be 802.11b/11Mbps???? Or does it mean it's actually a 54Mbps 802.11g wireless LAN, but downgraded to b standard which works at a much lower rate??? But why would they do that???
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 10/16/2003 01:18 AM
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Athlon64fx Member

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Someplace are not allow to use 802.11g now. Or they just spend for 802.11b hotspot. So Fujitsu have to give both way.
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 10/16/2003 06:54 AM
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Dave Graham Senior Member

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you can have both standards present without occupying much real estate. Fujitsu is just covering their bases. cheers, dave
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 10/16/2003 11:57 AM
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Athlon64fx Member

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But I still cannot use wireless in Thailand because hot-spot are available for few place only. In the city, some excellent department store and some 5 Stars Hotel.
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 10/18/2003 12:15 AM
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ksama Member

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well, Wireless hasn't been adopted to many places yet. It's still a relatively new thing, so I guess sometime is needed before more hot spots are available. I think INTEL has done such a big promotion of Centrino, and it makes people believe that the wireless service is already available when it isn't.
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