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 08/20/2009 12:12 PM
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Asus N60dp a tigris platform laptop

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there is also a video of another MSI tigris laptop

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so far they are a few Caspian CPUs called:

AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile M640- 2.6GHz
AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile M520- 2.3GHz
AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile M500- 2.2GHz
AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile M300- 2.0GHz
 08/20/2009 04:12 PM
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According to the site the N60dp is no Tigris CPU, but the "normal"? old Turions, as I see it. The specifications say:

AMD Turiontm 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology Processor M520/M500, 2.3-2.2 GHz
AMD Athlontm 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor M300, 2 GHz
So they're no Turion IIs

besides that: there's already a thread for that
 08/20/2009 05:04 PM
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Read the chipset spec "RS880M" which is the tigris platform.

I dont think this new platform will be compatible with old turions. plus there are no m300 to m640 old turion series. Asus must have made mistakes with naming the CPUs since AMD has not officially announced them.

The MSi tigris laptop video gives the true naming scheme of the caspian CPU. :o

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 08/20/2009 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by: Sparkman

Read the chipset spec "RS880M" which is the tigris platform.



I dont think this new platform will be compatible with old turions. plus there are no m300 to m640 old turion series. Asus must have made mistakes with naming the CPUs since AMD has not officially announced them.



The MSi tigris laptop video gives the true naming scheme of the caspian CPU.


Don't be a wet blanket
Those K8 badly need the upgrades since we are on obselete architecture.

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AMD Turion X2 2.1GHZ RM-72 1MB L2 Cache
4GB DDR2 667MHZ
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Edited: 08/21/2009 at 11:33 PM by weinter
 08/21/2009 05:30 AM
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but maybe it's the naming for Turion X2s in 42µ but without any other change, i.e. K8 + 10 architecture mix but built smaller?
The Chipset would make it compatible to Turion IIs then... and the Turion IIs are K10 architecture then.
I don't know... hard to tell... I doubt Asus is making such a big mistake in naming, since the CPU is one of the main parts of the laptop!
 08/21/2009 08:05 AM
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More info from another forum, they are speculating from a translated article a 2nd September platform release date

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some more japanese tranlated articles.

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 09/08/2009 08:20 AM
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Asus N60Dp is a tigris platform model with a caspian cpu,

further proof with this Link.

this link is an extract from the asus world magazine.
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Yeesh, who the hell pays money for a 16" display that only has 1366x768 resolution? What's the point of using a good graphics card when your screen is so lame?

It's too bad AMD doesn't have more control over how their partners deploy their chips. So far all of these new notebook designs are utterly pathetic on the LCD offerings. Even though the CPUs and GPUs are great, I have yet to see any Tigris model announcements that have a decent screen, and that totally kills it for me. I've been looking forward to upgrading from my Puma system (HP dv5z) to a better screen and cooler CPU but at this rate I'm just going to keep waiting.

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 10/14/2009 10:13 PM
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My guess is that Turion II will be very disappointing in the performance part.
You can tell when AMD tries to push it out quietly.

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 10/15/2009 05:31 PM
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what scares me most is that AMD has not yet announced which architecture the Turion II will be based on, although I believe it's K10 though. We'll see... guess they must be around the K10s then, but their frequency is rather low and AMD should finally enlarge the L2 Cache... their performance will be not as good as the i7s, which are coming out now, too.

what I hate most is that AMDs are usually used for laptops which aren't really styled. HP is releasing its envy series soon, but they're based on intel, acer has the timeline series, based on intel... and so on. No producer makes any effort in using AMDs for their style-series too. That sucks!

HP announced dv6 and dv7 laptops now. At least for Germany:
dv6:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc...54-64354-4011364.html

dv7:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc...354-64354-4011368.html
 10/17/2009 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by: iKai83

what scares me most is that AMD has not yet announced which architecture the Turion II will be based on, although I believe it's K10 though. We'll see... guess they must be around the K10s then, but their frequency is rather low and AMD should finally enlarge the L2 Cache... their performance will be not as good as the i7s, which are coming out now, too.

what I hate most is that AMDs are usually used for laptops which aren't really styled. HP is releasing its envy series soon, but they're based on intel, acer has the timeline series, based on intel... and so on. No producer makes any effort in using AMDs for their style-series too. That sucks!



Agreed, none of the OEMs are putting the same effort/features into their AMD offerings as they put into their Intel offerings. It totally sucks.

Pat Moorhead confirmed on his blog that Turion II is AMD Family 10, so at least that question is answered. Unfortunately the chips will not be drop-in upgrades for current Turion Ultras.

http://blogs.amd.com/patmoorhe...platform/#comment-1186

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 10/18/2009 01:04 AM
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NOOOOOO!
**Faints

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AMD Turion X2 2.1GHZ RM-72 1MB L2 Cache
4GB DDR2 667MHZ
NVIDIA 9100M G
320GB WD BEKT
http://aspiregemstone.blogspot.com/
 05/14/2010 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by: highlandsun

Pat Moorhead confirmed on his blog that Turion II is AMD Family 10, so at least that question is answered. Unfortunately the chips will not be drop-in upgrades for current Turion Ultras.


And yet they still push us new laptops to buy in case we want to "upgrade" to this new CPU.
I don't like this, unfortunately it appears that all that compatibility-between-previous-processors-to-the-current-one small talk is valid for desktop processors, not mobile.

I keep asking myself two things.
one is, how long will this processor upgrading issue last?
the other one is, when is AMD/ATi's XGP tech going to emerge?
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