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 06/13/2005 06:57 AM
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My Dad is going to buy an HP notebook, but he has configure one with the Athlon 64 3200+ and the other with the Turion 64 ML-28. What is the advantage of a Turion over an Athlon 64?
 06/13/2005 07:04 AM
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Better thermal behavior.

Turion Max Wattage = 25W/35W
A64 DTR Max Wattage = 89W

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 06/13/2005 08:27 AM
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A64 for notebooks supposed to be for Desktop displacement...
T64 not.

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 06/13/2005 09:25 AM
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lower wattage and therefore longer battery life (in theory - until i get my hands on one i cant say for sure) and same performance.
its the direct competitor to the p-m i think. so thin and light laptops generally will have it

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 06/13/2005 09:33 AM
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The advantages are that with a turion you will have:
less power consumption=longer battery life as well as less heat for your lap /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
 06/27/2005 01:16 PM
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What I'm wondering is advantages of Athlon 64 over Turion 64, if someone can help. How do they measure against each other performance-wise, on benchmarks? Including all variations of the processors. I'd be doing a lot of graphics work in Photoshop. I'm also wondering about the video cards that come with each typically, and whether those that come with Athlon 64 are typically more powerful.

I need to get a notebook soon, and it will basically serve as a desktop replacement. I'm not that concerned about battery life, in this case, but the amount of power usage might matter, especially if high power requirements are more likely to cause the notebook to overheat. I would also prefer a smaller notebook, but thats not completely necessary.

My main question, then, as I said, is what advantages Athlon 64 has over Turion 64.

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 06/28/2005 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(brian.shapiro @ Jun 27 2005, 12:16 PM)What I'm wondering is advantages of Athlon 64 over Turion 64, if someone can help. How do they measure against each other performance-wise, on benchmarks? Including all variations of the processors. I'd be doing a lot of graphics work in Photoshop. I'm also wondering about the video cards that come with each typically, and whether those that come with Athlon 64 are typically more powerful.

I need to get a notebook soon, and it will basically serve as a desktop replacement. I'm not that concerned about battery life, in this case, but the amount of power usage might matter, especially if high power requirements are more likely to cause the notebook to overheat. I would also prefer a smaller notebook, but thats not completely necessary.

My main question, then, as I said, is what advantages Athlon 64 has over Turion 64.

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I have an athlon64 3200+ winchester and it is pretty awesome. I am going to recieve mL-28 compaq next week sometime. I would suggest you build a desktop solution using the athlon64. You can get retail now for a pretty good price the 3500+. I bought my board hte abit because of the amount of cpus it could handle, i can put an fx an athlon64 and an athlon x2 on my board. I did read that the turion has sse3 instructions and my athlon64 3200 doesnt. I was lookign for benchmarks and i couldnt find any. My turion compaq has 200m xpress ati graphics shared 32mb. I have an allinwonder 9800pro card which is awesome. I am going to be using my laptop for school and so forth is why i bought it. You can get a retail versin of the cpu for $190 bucks at http://www.buyxg.com/store/item.asp?key=CU-131-111' ">http://www.buyxg.com/store/item.asp?key=CU-131-111 and my cpu has stock heatsink fan that came with it and it has never gone over 60C. It is hot as [content edited] out and my case temp is 43C and my cpu's top temp is 57C. I would think that this will be the hottest my cpu will ever get becuase i was playing star wars too and having no air conditioning in hte apartment. It usually is a lot cooler, like in the winter it usually is 49C, usually it stays 10-12C over the case temperature so in winter when it is 34-6C case temp cpu is usually 47-50C. And the fan is usually on 2200rpms and it is quiet too.

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 06/28/2005 02:45 PM
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bandicoot,

Well I need a notebook, thats has some graphics capability, and I'm not going to buy a desktop in addition, so I was just wondering about capabilities as a desktop replacement. I assume that the Turion 64 is slower, and doesn't support as high end graphics. I was wondering how much so, so thats why I was asking about benchmarks. I would like the notebook to last a decent amount of years, so at least have one that is ready for the Longhorn and its graphics demands for the full experience, when that comes out in the next few years. I know the Athlon 64 takes more power and generates more heat, so I was wondering, in a notebook, whether that would be a good idea. Previously, I've had an Athlon notebook that constantly had problems with power and the logic board being fried. Of course, that was a Compaq Presario, which I hear typically have problems, so I'm wondering if this is just a risk of not buying a mobile proccessor.

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 06/29/2005 02:35 AM
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This might seem off the topic, but has anyone tried installing a Turion on a desktop based motherboard? I mean, like we all used to love the AXP 2500+ mobile cause it overclocked a lot better because of the unlocked multipliers and also produced much less heat. These things seem to apply for the Turion as well.
 06/30/2005 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(JimmyFox @ Jun 13 2005, 03:04 AM)Better thermal behavior.

Turion Max Wattage = 25W/35W
A64 DTR Max Wattage = 89W
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The mobile A64s are supposed to be around 50-60watts. Slightly less than their desktop counterparts but still not like the turion which is designed to compete with the Pentium M.

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 06/30/2005 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(MMB088 @ Jun 30 2005, 10:34 PM)The mobile A64s are supposed to be around 50-60watts. Slightly less than their desktop counterparts but still not like the turion which is designed to compete with the Pentium M.
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