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Topic Summary: I have an Acer Aspire 5102WLMi Notebook with 2x AMD TL50 processors and 800Mhz FSB
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Answer This question was answered by Jessie James 59, on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 4:06 PM

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I upgraded my Acer Aspire from a TL-50 (1.6Mz duel core) to a TL-64 (2.2Mz duel core), with no problems. By doing so. I increased the L1 and L2 side of the processor as well as the processors speed.
As well as the processor I installed a 100Gb 7200rpm PATA hard drive, and 4GB Duel Channel RAM (5300). All I can say is this 5100 Acer is FAST, I now use this laptop for photo and video editing, and since the change, it has never shown any signs of slowing down (the same could not be said in it's orignal form). I use Windows XP pro so the 128Mb video card is not a problem as it could be, if I were using Vista.
With the very low costs of the new RAM and Hard drive (PURCHASED FROM NEW EGG), Plus the good deal I got on the processor from EBAY. I have a very powerful laptop that will serve me well into the future. One that filled my needs to do Photo and Video editing and did not cost me over $1000.
 01/09/2008 05:43 PM
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Can I upgrade from TL50 to TL68?

I have an Acer Aspire 5102WLMi Notebook with 2x AMD TL50 processors and an 800Mhz FSB and I would like to upgrade my mobo with the fastest processor available that will fit in the S1 socket. I think I read somewhere that it's an S1G1 socket, whatever that means.

It's my understanding that the TL68 will fit in the S1 socket; and to the best of my knowledge, it's the fastest member of the Turion Mobile Processor family. There are a couple of compatibility issues that I'm aware of:

1. The TL50 is 90nm and the TL68 is 65nm. I read somewhere that there may be BIOS compatibility issues. I suspect this would only be true if there's a difference in how these devices are initialized; or am I missing something?

2. 90nm processors require 3.0 - 3.5vdc input and 65nm processors require 2.5 - 3.5vdc input. Since the requirements for the 90nm processors are more restrictive, it appears this won't be an issue.

Also, if this is even possible, will I need to overclock after installing the new processors or does the TL68 have an internal multiplier that will take care of this?

Last but not least, where can I buy these? No one seems to carry them. I can't find them at New Egg or any of the other Franchise Distributors.



Thanks, John
 01/11/2008 02:41 PM
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i'd have troubles trying to change my TL-50 for a TL-58, i think the reason is that the original is 90nm and the second is 65nm... my laptop ACER AS5050 doesn´t support this kind of technology.

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 11/17/2008 04:05 AM
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I'm also interested in upgrading my Acer Aspire 5102wlmi's CPU which is 90nm TL-50.
Does somebody have experience having 65nm cpu in this machine?
I was planning to buy TL-60 65nm 31w but if its not working then I need to find something else

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Answer Answer
I upgraded my Acer Aspire from a TL-50 (1.6Mz duel core) to a TL-64 (2.2Mz duel core), with no problems. By doing so. I increased the L1 and L2 side of the processor as well as the processors speed.
As well as the processor I installed a 100Gb 7200rpm PATA hard drive, and 4GB Duel Channel RAM (5300). All I can say is this 5100 Acer is FAST, I now use this laptop for photo and video editing, and since the change, it has never shown any signs of slowing down (the same could not be said in it's orignal form). I use Windows XP pro so the 128Mb video card is not a problem as it could be, if I were using Vista.
With the very low costs of the new RAM and Hard drive (PURCHASED FROM NEW EGG), Plus the good deal I got on the processor from EBAY. I have a very powerful laptop that will serve me well into the future. One that filled my needs to do Photo and Video editing and did not cost me over $1000.
 12/12/2008 07:11 AM
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this goes with any processor...

if the cpu's are the same socket, then you can upgrade...
as long as you meet a couple conditions:
1. your mobo bios must support the new cpu. (on notebooks this usually means contacting the mfr if they don't list a bios upgrade or cpu compatibility list on their site)
2. you have ample cooling and power requirements if the new cpu is of a higher wattage design.

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One point of interest, Under load the 2.2Mz processor ran 5F to 10F deg. cooler than the 1.6Mz processor. At idle they were about the same.
My guess is that the 2.2Mz processor finished it's tasks much faster than the 1.6Mz.
Or I used better heat transfer compound on the new processor.
I only know I am very pleased with the results.
 02/07/2009 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Jessie James 59

One point of interest, Under load the 2.2Mz processor ran 5F to 10F deg. cooler than the 1.6Mz processor. At idle they were about the same.

My guess is that the 2.2Mz processor finished it's tasks much faster than the 1.6Mz.

Or I used better heat transfer compound on the new processor.

I only know I am very pleased with the results.


Nice to hear that.

By the way did you upgrade that cpu to Acer Aspire 5102wlmi?
Hmm another thing which wonders me is that did you buy TL-64 65nm version?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...22Tyler.22_.2865_nm.29

Have you noticed any overheating problems when having heavy cpu usage?

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Originally posted by: coljohnhannibalsmith

Can I upgrade from TL50 to TL68?



I have an Acer Aspire 5102WLMi Notebook with 2x AMD TL50 processors and an 800Mhz FSB and I would like to upgrade my mobo with the fastest processor available that will fit in the S1 socket. I think I read somewhere that it's an S1G1 socket, whatever that means.



It's my understanding that the TL68 will fit in the S1 socket; and to the best of my knowledge, it's the fastest member of the Turion Mobile Processor family. There are a couple of compatibility issues that I'm aware of:



1. The TL50 is 90nm and the TL68 is 65nm. I read somewhere that there may be BIOS compatibility issues. I suspect this would only be true if there's a difference in how these devices are initialized; or am I missing something?



2. 90nm processors require 3.0 - 3.5vdc input and 65nm processors require 2.5 - 3.5vdc input. Since the requirements for the 90nm processors are more restrictive, it appears this won't be an issue.



Also, if this is even possible, will I need to overclock after installing the new processors or does the TL68 have an internal multiplier that will take care of this?



Last but not least, where can I buy these? No one seems to carry them. I can't find them at New Egg or any of the other Franchise Distributors.







Thanks, John


Hello all : )

I am in the same situation as John is above: Acer Aspire 5102WLMi with a AMD Turion 64 x2 TL-50 processor. The motherboard is reported in CPU-Z as Acer Navarro and has a ATI Xpress200 (RS480) chipset, and Southbridge ATI SB400.

So far so good.. it has been (and still is) a decent and reliable notebook, with the exception of the BIOS drivers quality and the default 4200RPM harddrive. I've bought this notebook from US in July 2006.

As I've already upgraded to 4GB of RAM, I intend to upgrade my CPU from TL-50 to TL-68 (or TL-64 if it TL-68 doesn't work). In the BIOS release notes (http://support.acer-euro.com/d...notebook/as_5100.html) I didn't found any CPU Speed restrictions (of course, this doesn't mean that they're not there..) for the RS480 chipset.

Can any Acer Aspire 5102WLMi (and/or RS480 chipset owners) users out there please share with us (Jessie James 59 and coljohnhannibalsmith especially) what technology (90nm/65nm) and what CPU (TL-64/68) they've upgraded to? And also.. wheather it worked or not? : )

I think this might help quite a lot of Acer Aspire 5102WLMi users with a RS480 chipset who are looking for a AMD CPU upgrade from TL-50 to TL-64 or TL-68.

Thank you very much,
Marius.
 06/16/2009 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by: MariusP

Originally posted by: coljohnhannibalsmith

Can I upgrade from TL50 to TL68?

I have an Acer Aspire 5102WLMi Notebook with 2x AMD TL50 processors and an 800Mhz FSB and I would like to upgrade my mobo with the fastest processor available that will fit in the S1 socket. I think I read somewhere that it's an S1G1 socket, whatever that means.

It's my understanding that the TL68 will fit in the S1 socket; and to the best of my knowledge, it's the fastest member of the Turion Mobile Processor family. There are a couple of compatibility issues that I'm aware of:

1. The TL50 is 90nm and the TL68 is 65nm. I read somewhere that there may be BIOS compatibility issues. I suspect this would only be true if there's a difference in how these devices are initialized; or am I missing something?

2. 90nm processors require 3.0 - 3.5vdc input and 65nm processors require 2.5 - 3.5vdc input. Since the requirements for the 90nm processors are more restrictive, it appears this won't be an issue.

Also, if this is even possible, will I need to overclock after installing the new processors or does the TL68 have an internal multiplier that will take care of this?

Last but not least, where can I buy these? No one seems to carry them. I can't find them at New Egg or any of the other Franchise Distributors.

Thanks, John




Hello all : )

I am in the same situation as John is above: Acer Aspire 5102WLMi with a AMD Turion 64 x2 TL-50 processor. The motherboard is reported in CPU-Z as Acer Navarro and has a ATI Xpress200 (RS480) chipset, and Southbridge ATI SB400.

So far so good.. it has been (and still is) a decent and reliable notebook, with the exception of the BIOS drivers quality and the default 4200RPM harddrive. I've bought this notebook from US in July 2006.

As I've already upgraded to 4GB of RAM, I intend to upgrade my CPU from TL-50 to TL-68 (or TL-64 if it TL-68 doesn't work). In the BIOS release notes (http://support.acer-euro.com/d...notebook/as_5100.html) I didn't found any CPU Speed restrictions (of course, this doesn't mean that they're not there..) for the RS480 chipset.

Can any Acer Aspire 5102WLMi (and/or RS480 chipset owners) users out there please share with us (Jessie James 59 and coljohnhannibalsmith especially) what technology (90nm/65nm) and what CPU (TL-64/68) they've upgraded to? And also.. wheather it worked or not? : )

I think this might help quite a lot of Acer Aspire 5102WLMi users with a RS480 chipset who are looking for a AMD CPU upgrade from TL-50 to TL-64 or TL-68.

Thank you very much,

Marius.


Hello all,

I have a VERY GOOD News to every Acer Aspire 5102WLMi user out there: I've successfully upgraded from the original TL-50 to the TL-66 (@2.3GHz, on 0.065 microns, model TMDTL66HAX5DM).
I didn't saw any CLEAR confirmation about the TL-68 on this laptop, so I've tried the TL-66. That said, the difference between TL-66 and TL-68 is quite small and if you have the same chipset.. TL-68 will most surely work. In my case, it wasn't quite justified to pay another 50-60$ only for 100MHz/core. When needed, I can overclock it to 2.6/2.7 without problems.

I've also upgraded the BIOS to v3.13 a few months ago, also because I have 4GB ram and there were some issues with it when using an older BIOS version.

The heat is slightly lower with this beast : ) The Speed is considerable - you will notice first the instant responsivness of each application, no matter how many you have started.. When doing sw development, the enhanced speed is awesome!!!
What can I say more.. it's a ROCKET. I will upgrade the pata hard-drive to one of the first plate 160GB SAMSUNG models, and I will have one of the most powerfull laptops with a small investment.

Where did I get the CPU? Well, I've risked a little and purchased it from eBay. This TL-66 was ~128USD + shipping.

It's interesting that when I've removed the heat sink, I've read something different than what CPU-Z told me about my "ATI RS480" chipset: it is actually an ATI RS485WC as far as I read on the chipset. But maybe it's from the same RS480 family and CPU-Z didn't know all the biffurcations..

I hope my post will help by giving you a BOLD confirmation that TL-66 works on ACER Aspire 5102WLMi with the ATI RS480 chipset.

M.
 09/07/2009 06:26 PM
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Hi all,

Any one got info on the same type of upgrade or lower cpu on a Packard Ball mv51-104?

Thanx
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Anybody try upgrading the processor in a Gateway MT6451?
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