 10/07/2003 01:50 PM
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Qusal Junior Member

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Hey i have got a slot a athlon 600mhz on a asus k7v motherboard in a old system but yesterday i got a duron 800 mhz on a jetway 663as motherboard is it worth replacing the athlon 600 slot a with the duron 800 socket a?
Oh and this is my first post on these forums so Hi all,
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 10/07/2003 01:53 PM
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Guntario Member

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QUOTE (Qusal @ Oct 7 2003, 09:50 AM) Hey i have got a slot a athlon 600mhz on a asus k7v motherboard in a old system but yesterday i got a duron 800 mhz on a jetway 663as motherboard is it worth replacing the athlon 600 slot a with the duron 800 socket a? Oh and this is my first post on these forums so Hi all, Qusal I personally would stick with the athlon.
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 10/07/2003 02:04 PM
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Qusal Junior Member

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Its an allround system, i use it as a fileserver, backup computer, office computer and i also have a gf4 ti4400 in it so i can play 3d shooting games on it.
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 10/07/2003 02:05 PM
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Dave Graham Senior Member

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QUOTE (Qusal @ Oct 7 2003, 10:04 AM) Its an allround system, i use it as a fileserver, backup computer, office computer and i also have a gf4 ti4400 in it so i can play 3d shooting games on it. i'd stick with the Athlon...the extra cache helps a bit. cheers, dave
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 10/07/2003 11:10 PM
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Duron. The Duron is a Spitfire core, whereas the Athlon is almost certainly an old Pluto. Remember, people, it's not just one name versus another.
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 10/08/2003 05:34 AM
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Greyhound Senior Member

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hmmm...the Athlon has 512KB L2-cache versus 64KB on the Duron...but then the Athlon's L2 is off-die and runs only at half the core-clockspeed(=300MHz)... also, socket A is a more modern platform...i think it'd be close...but if you OC the Duron it'll be faster, even if you also OC the Athlon, since the old Athlon has a 0.25µ-process and prolly can't go as high as the Duron which is 0.18µ.
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 10/08/2003 05:37 AM
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Just try and see what is Good for your requirements...
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 10/08/2003 07:05 PM
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sandorski Member

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Easy, the Duron. The Duron 800 is about as fast as a TBird 750 overall, it is much faster than a TBird 600(which is faster clock/clock than a SlotA Athlon, due to fullspeed vs halfspeed L2 cache).
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 10/08/2003 07:25 PM
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Definately the Duron.SLOT A Athlons are a little bit outdated.You can easily overclock the Duron by unlocking the multiplier with a pencil so you should be able to get 900Mhz with absolutely no risk.That is if you "fancy" overclocking. .Plus,you can later change the cpu into a thunderbird without having to change the motherboard.
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 10/09/2003 08:44 AM
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QUOTE (PorBleemo @ Oct 8 2003, 12:14 AM) I would say Duron, it's faster FSB allows you to use DDR if you so choose. I think that and the 200Mhz core difference would help.
-Por I think the FSB is the same. But there aren't any DDR-RAM Boards for Slot A .
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 10/09/2003 12:01 PM
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Qusal Junior Member

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thanks for all your reactions!
I have chosen to build in the duron! Even though i cannot use any ddr ram because of the jetway motherboard!
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 10/10/2003 04:18 PM
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Rage710 Junior Member

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i would stick with the socket A because it is still in use...(except A64) and most modern mobo's will run with those chips. so i would pick the duron
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 10/14/2003 08:29 PM
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MrAMD Junior Member

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Good to see common sense prevailed. I have no idea why you guys would recommend using the CPU which is not only 200 Mhz slower (I know, clock speed don't matter...) but also a generational step BACKwards. (or more!  . The Duron 800 would win hands down. Cache or no cache difference.
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 10/14/2003 09:27 PM
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I heard some issue that Duron can running as Athlon with a little cache modification ... is it true ?
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 10/14/2003 09:30 PM
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brian_brian Senior Member

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If that info is correct ... which Duron can do that ??? how fast ???
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 10/15/2003 05:20 AM
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Yes, the new Applebred cores can. That's because the Applebreds are Thoroughbred-Bs with most of the L2 cache disabled. You can enable it again on most of them and get a discount Thoroughbred-B. (They're excellent OCers, too. Most of them must have been JIUHBs before they got their cache disabled.) On a Spitfire core like the one being mentioned here, though, no dice.
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 10/31/2003 06:02 AM
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socketA duron 800mhz will faster I think
and you can also OC it to 133*6 or 133*7
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